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In some ways it's the natural outcome of an empire that's losing its grasp. China's trade with Brazil has eclipsed the US. They wont sacrifice that simply to appease the US, and if i was a Brazilian i wouldn't want it so.
If i was Brazilian i would want both the giants to compete for my markets, natural resources, etc. in a fair way, one that benefits me domestically.

As far as India, i think Indians are smart enough to not burn bridges that have lasted decades (with the Russians) and commit seppuku by giving up discounted Russian oil. Like taking a step back, how fucking ridiculous does it sound to dictate to a country that they cannot import energy for 50-55 dollars a barrel but instead have to pay 70. In what world would a country of 2 billion say, yeah we will comply and pay 20-30% more for a critical input because the hegemon said so?



The median monthly income in India is approximately $339 USD

And uncle Sam wants them to pay more for energy. Absolutely retarded.
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The median monthly income in India is approximately $339 USD

And uncle Sam wants them to pay more for energy. Absolutely retarded.


Energy is needed for so many things. Food, transport, a lot of people don't follow that it's not just price at the pump that'd be impacted but a tons of other things.

Trump is trying to force Russia to the table and accept some shit deal but it won't work IMO because so much of the world is energy hungry.

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Energy for so many things. Food, transport, a lot of people don't follow that it's not just price at the pump that'd be impacted but a tons of other things.

Trump is trying to force Russia to the table and accept some shit deal but it won't work IMO because so much of the world is energy hungry.


Maybe Trump is trying to distract everyone from the Epstien Fallout.

I have said in the past on one of those threads. A war will be a good distraction. Or maybe some nuclear fallout from an accidental blast. :rofl:
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In some ways it's the natural outcome of an empire that's losing its grasp. China's trade with Brazil has eclipsed the US. They wont sacrifice that simply to appease the US, and if i was a Brazilian i wouldn't want it so.
If i was Brazilian i would want both the giants to compete for my markets, natural resources, etc. in a fair way, one that benefits me domestically.

As far as India, i think Indians are smart enough to not burn bridges that have lasted decades (with the Russians) and commit seppuku by giving up discounted Russian oil. Like taking a step back, how fucking ridiculous does it sound to dictate to a country that they cannot import energy for 50-55 dollars a barrel but instead have to pay 70. In what world would a country of 2 billion say, yeah we will comply and pay 20-30% more for a critical input because the hegemon said so?


Find a nearby Indian and ask them why they are aligned with Russia. They all remember 1971. Hindi rusi bhai bhai.

In December 1971, the US sent warships to the Bay of Bengal to threaten India on Pakistan’s behalf. However, the Soviet Union responded by sending nuclear-armed submarines and destroyers to confront the US Navy.

US backed down and India won 1971 war.



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Find a nearby Indian and ask them why they are aligned with Russia. They all remember 1971. Hindi rusi bhai bhai.

In December 1971, the US sent warships to the Bay of Bengal to threaten India on Pakistan’s behalf. However, the Soviet Union responded by sending nuclear-armed submarines and destroyers to confront the US Navy.

US backed down and India won 1971 war.

https://i.imgur.com/Wei2fmI.jpeg


Doubt India is loyal but just from a pragmatic, economic perspective. They have lots of mouths to feed, they need lots of energy. Cutting off cheap Russian energy is not in their own best interests. And honestly in my opinion, the US needs India more than India needs the US. From a geopolitical perspective, the US needs India as an ally to counter China.
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Find a nearby Indian and ask them why they are aligned with Russia. They all remember 1971. Hindi rusi bhai bhai.

In December 1971, the US sent warships to the Bay of Bengal to threaten India on Pakistan’s behalf. However, the Soviet Union responded by sending nuclear-armed submarines and destroyers to confront the US Navy.

US backed down and India won 1971 war.

https://i.imgur.com/Wei2fmI.jpeg


Yup ! I know very well about the Indian / Pakistan War.

And the Chinese sided with the Americans because they were having problems with both India and Soviet Union at that point.
How things have changed. :rofl:

The Chinese were an uneasy "ally" with the USA. From the India Pakistan wars , being a front against the Soviets, going to Vietnam late 70s on behest of the United States to teach Vietnam a lesson via the border conflict.
And now just look at the shit that is happening with all the Anti Sinic Rhetoric.


Kissinger said it well... It is dangerous to be an enemy of the United States, it is fatal to be her ally.

Doubt India is loyal but just from a pragmatic, economic perspective. They have lots of mouths to feed, they need lots of energy. Cutting off cheap Russian energy is not in their own best interests. And honestly in my opinion, the US needs India more than India needs the US. From a geopolitical perspective, the US needs India as an ally to counter China.


You will be surprised.

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The median monthly income in India is approximately $339 USD

And uncle Sam wants them to pay more for energy. Absolutely retarded.


Indians can all be destroyed & enslaved as far as I'm concerned

They've completed invaded and destroyed my country and are happy about it and it's even worse in my homeland

Anything that hurts them is fantastic policy

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Indians can all be destroyed & enslaved as far as I'm concerned

They've completed invaded and destroyed my country and are happy about it

Anything that hurts them is fantastic policy


Well, that's the fault of your government in general being naive thinking that opening up for Indians will throw the Chinese off and get rid of the Chinese ( It includes not just China, practically anyone that speaks Ching Chong).
So that is just a tragedy. -_-

I have said this to you before, East Asians a lot who migrated will most likely go back to their original country, those that are left in the West have entirely integrated into society.
Indians who leave India.....will never go back.... they will bring their culture to you. :lol: And Indians are not just Hindus etc etc , you also need to include Indian Muslims and Singhs... and there is at least 200 Indian Muslims. :lol:
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Well, that's the fault of your government in general being naive thinking that opening up for Indians will throw the Chinese off and get rid of the Chinese ( It includes not just China, practically anyone that speaks Ching Chong).
So that is just a tragedy. -_-

I have said this to you before, East Asians a lot who migrated will most likely go back to their original country, those that are left in the West have entirely integrated into society.
Indians who leave India.....will never go back.... they will bring their culture to you. :lol: And Indians are not just Hindus etc etc , you also need to include Indian Muslims and Singhs... and there is at least 200 Indian Muslims. :lol:


That's just blaming the victim on our part, when its open season on the Indians it will then be their fault, there is a growing sentiment that they do not belong, and if they fail to emigrate voluntarily... they aren't hard to spot.

East Asians are great because they are respectful. That of course as you said is not the case for Indians.

/e with respect to Russia, the fact that US can park nuclear subs on their doorstep and they do nothing is a sign of weakness. If they had the capacity to deter, they would deter. Russia is missing an opportunity right now to submit to the new US regime - what's the alternative for them? Russia isn't able to do the same on the US coast because they would be destroyed.

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