? The west openly discusses that issue.
Pretty unrelated to our last 2 posts.

Russia and NK openly signed a military pact. What are you even talking about

I dont think he understands that while the West is allowed to engage in a proxy war, with 50+ countries involved, the idea that Russia is allowed to have allies or military alliances is a big no no.

None of this is relevant. The claim was that some youtubers wrongly talk about russian ammo shortages. You don't need shell deliveries if you got enough. That's pretty much my only argument.

All you talk about Western shells and allies is offtopic. Although it follows the same logic, Ukraine doesn't have enough shells and gets deliveries.

This post was edited by BaHgerAUT on Jul 26 2025 02:01pm

No

This is what I said

Trump sets Putin new deadline of '10 or 12 days' to end Ukraine war.

Is he going to bomb moscow, like he bombed Iran? Sanctions? Write a letter?

Russia has largely achieved its goals at this point so Putin can “declare victory” without major domestic setback esp if Trump assists in forcing Ukranians to settle.

A firm agreement of no NATO has to be made somehow + official recognition of status quo of what is on the ground (I would guess Russians would want to at least finish off Donetsk oblast). This somehow has to endure post-Trump administration and ideally into the perpetuity. Perhaps entangle Chinese in this?

This was a decent take: https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-putin-should-declare-victory-in-ukraine-now

Well 10-12 days time lets see

I agree that the Russians would really want to take control of the full Donetsk oblast before a peace treaty enshrines the status quo. But I don't really see that, not in the short term. They still haven't taken Pokrovsk yet, which isn't even that big a city. Barring a proper collapse of the Ukrainian front lines//at the current, glacial pace, Russia is still at least one year away from taking Kramatorsk/Sloviansk.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 28 2025 09:29pm

Yeah the question is whether the slog keeps slogging or Russia stages a massive breakthrough. It could change on any day, or we could go 2 more years of creeping Russian advances. Putin plainly set his design on taking everything east of the Dnipro and that is still within his grasp