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Jul 18 2025 01:43pm
This thread is legendary, almost 50k post.
And there are still people coping saying NATO / Ukraine will win.
Every single time.
We will introduce F 16
The new missiles are going to be game changer..
To using China junks.

But in no way making any advances to take back lost lands.
These people you know who they are, 3 famous ones disappeared a few come back every now and then spamming like the best few weeks they are going to win the war and "democracy " wins.

Full of bullshit. :rofl:

Thanks Ferdia for the thread. ;)
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Jul 18 2025 05:40pm
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12672

According to 2025 testimony of NORTHCOM Commander General Gregory Guillot, "if fielded," these novel Russian capabilities "will severely challenge [the U.S.] ability to detect and characterize an inbound attack and determine an appropriate response during a conflict."



We've been over the sarmat failure in this thread. This is why they do these tests. The sarmat is a small piece in a very large pie, my friend. Again, theres tons of ways to trash on Russias ability to manufacture new weapons to western standards, but literally no one questions russias ability to engage in MAD. Russia has never let their icbms,ssbns and slbms be a weak point for them.

Russia is already well underway in its modernization of its nuclear arsenal, while uncle sam wont start replacing its minutemen 3s with the sentinel gbsds till like 2030. The us has done a good job of modernizing its warheads but its ground-launched icbms are relics at this point. Youre seriously barking up the wrong tree


The general who testified to congress did so on a worse case scenario, as he should.
How many of the latest Borei class ballistic subs has Russia completed building, two? That leaves antique Oscar-class (70s era) and Delta III (80s era) still in service for Russia.

Also worth mentioning, ukraine was capable of sinkimg a Russian sub while it was at port...

Hopefully vlads dictatorship ends before he ever resorts to launching nukes.
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Jul 19 2025 07:40am
This thread is legendary, almost 50k post.
And there are still people coping saying NATO / Ukraine will win.
Every single time.
We will introduce F 16
The new missiles are going to be game changer..
To using China junks.

But in no way making any advances to take back lost lands.
These people you know who they are, 3 famous ones disappeared a few come back every now and then spamming like the best few weeks they are going to win the war and "democracy " wins.

Full of bullshit. :rofl:

Thanks Ferdia for the thread. ;)


It started with the Javelin and continued with the Bayraktar, then the Challenger and Abrams, and now it's the F-16's turn to be thrown into the scrap heap of history.
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Jul 19 2025 11:36am
It started with the Javelin and continued with the Bayraktar, then the Challenger and Abrams, and now it's the F-16's turn to be thrown into the scrap heap of history.


HIMARS, ATACM, Stormshadow, SCAPLP missiles
US Bradley, Swedish CV90, German Marder IFVs
Excalibur shells / Switchblade drones / GLSDB system (all failed because of Russian EW countermeasures)
A whole range of artillery systems including French CAESAR, German Panzerhaubitze 2000, US Paladins and M777, Swedish Archer artillery system (all running out of shells, production can't keep up with demand)
A whole range of air defense systems (running out of missiles, production can't keep up with demand)

And don't forget all of the military hardware and ammo that the Russians left behind after the USSR fell apart, it was all given to Ukraine and it included some serious kit like MIG fighters and T72 tanks notably the updated ones that Poland produced IIRC

This post was edited by Djunior on Jul 19 2025 11:36am
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HIMARS, ATACM, Stormshadow, SCAPLP missiles
US Bradley, Swedish CV90, German Marder IFVs
Excalibur shells / Switchblade drones / GLSDB system (all failed because of Russian EW countermeasures)
A whole range of artillery systems including French CAESAR, German Panzerhaubitze 2000, US Paladins and M777, Swedish Archer artillery system (all running out of shells, production can't keep up with demand)
A whole range of air defense systems (running out of missiles, production can't keep up with demand)

And don't forget all of the military hardware and ammo that the Russians left behind after the USSR fell apart, it was all given to Ukraine and it included some serious kit like MIG fighters and T72 tanks notably the updated ones that Poland produced IIRC




And the famous Ghost of Kyiv that shot down 1000 Russian aircraft.
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Jul 19 2025 01:24pm
I read page one and page four thousand four hundred ninety two only and...wtf

My personal opinion is the EU has evolved from what it was to what it is today and I'm not sure any of the Older Countries like Russia or China give a real fuck because they've been United for hundreds and thousands of years as we know it.
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Jul 19 2025 02:32pm
I read page one and page four thousand four hundred ninety two only and...wtf

My personal opinion is the EU has evolved from what it was to what it is today and I'm not sure any of the Older Countries like Russia or China give a real fuck because they've been United for hundreds and thousands of years as we know it.


its really only in the last 2 decades that Russia and China have strengthened their political ties.
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Jul 19 2025 02:44pm
Oh well why bother

This post was edited by Malopox on Jul 19 2025 02:52pm
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Jul 19 2025 02:45pm
I read page one and page four thousand four hundred ninety two only and...wtf

My personal opinion is the EU has evolved from what it was to what it is today and I'm not sure any of the Older Countries like Russia or China give a real fuck because they've been United for hundreds and thousands of years as we know it.


Huh? You ever heard of the Sino-Soviet split of 1950-1980? Thousands? And on another thread you said I posted without knowledge or proof? They even had border clashes as recently as the late 60s and 70s.
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Jul 19 2025 02:45pm
its really only in the last 2 decades that Russia and China have strengthened their political ties.


:rofl:

Do you really think that Russia and China could've coexisted that long peacefully without either side taking over the other without the knowledge of anyone else?

?

Shit, if that secret alliance was dominated by another force; what exactly is stopping them from telling theentire World a Different Story?

Just wondering, pondering and opinionating.

1776.07.04

I believe all this Drama going on currently is not something new, we just have Cameras and the Internet now.

This post was edited by TyraeLucifer on Jul 19 2025 02:53pm
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