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Jun 26 2025 10:56am
The US is already poking China. This is a fact.
You have to also accept that in 5 years time we could see millions of drones used by China. i mean robotic drones, not human drones.


Are they though? Re establishing a fair trade relationship could be interpreted as poking, China did submit very quickly, but overall we've been very tolerant of China
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Jun 26 2025 10:58am
Russia - West relationships improve? They wont have time to improve before the war.


Well yeah they'd only continue to improve if a hot war doesnt happen, God willing

Russian right wingers are presently in communion with Western right wingers (who represent the future, young men who do not hate Russia) thanks to platforms like X and even this site, so the hope is that this continues to improve

Russia hate all comes from boomers who are slated to die off soon

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Are they though? Re establishing a fair trade relationship could be interpreted as poking, China did submit very quickly, but overall we've been very tolerant of China


What are you referring to here?

It is factually correct that the US sees China as a threat, it has created a ring around China, it has sanctions against China.
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Well yeah they'd only continue to improve if a hot war doesnt happen, God willing

Russian right wingers are presently in communion with Western right wingers (who represent the future, young men who do not hate Russia) thanks to platforms like X and even this site, so the hope is that this continues to improve


I think we have to look at this like a car. A car on a road. it is driving in a direction. it is not so easy to turn the car around once it has picked up speed, and currently the Ukraine - Russia conflict is picking up speed in Europe.

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Jun 26 2025 11:01am
I think we have to look at this like a car. A car on a road. it is driving in a direction. it is not so easy to turn the car around once it has picked up speed.


I agree, but this argument also applies to white solidarity. They cant stop this train, the endpoint of which is white political unification or allyship
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Jun 26 2025 11:01am
White solidarity in Europe is a rising tide. It's only been slowly improving, while the Bolsheviks remain in illegitimate power and continue to attempt to suppress it. But it's not working.

White solidarity is the future - as Russia-West relationships improve over time, communication improves, White solidarity improves, Russia-West alliance becomes closer to being materialized again. Remember that Russia is historically a Western European polity in alliance with Europe, all their royal families intermingled.


You see right from my point of view.

If NATO and the Neocons didn't fuck around with Russia back in 2014.
The West will still be able to maintain her hegemony for a much longer period.

The first person whom Xi Jinping seek an audience with when he came into power was non other than Putin.
And to be honest with you, it took Xi almost 10 years for him to even get Putin to " Ally " with him. And it happen because of the Ukraine war.

Xi wouldn't have gotten his second term if the world didn't turn out the way it is. And please note this. East Asians are very pragmatic. The main congress in China would have elected another new guy over Xi and play the weak role kowtowing to the West especially USA.
You will still be able to siphon as much wealth as possible and make the Chinese look like a weak weak nation. And with a tiny bit of intelligence, move production and manufacturing to other countries just in case.

But the ship has sailed. The greatest mistake the West ever made was to fuck with the Russians in 2014 and they made it even worst with the Ukraine war.
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Jun 26 2025 11:02am
https://x.com/HenMazzig/status/1937838551812465082

Anti Israel activists / criminals in Belgium raided a defense plant and destroyed a bunch of combat vehicles thinking they were being supplied to Israel. They were actually for Ukraine, and now the company thinks it will take them an extra month to repair the damages and ship the armor to Ukraine.
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Jun 26 2025 11:03am
I agree, but this argument also applies to white solidarity. They cant stop this train, the endpoint of which is white political unification or allyship


i completely agree with you that the natural progression SHOULD have been Russia gravitating towards the EU ( and this is what Putin wanted in the early 2000's ) but the fact is that the US decided against this and instead PUSHED Russia towards the Chinese.

So while I can see your argument, I believe its more a "what could have been" rather then a reality today, or tomorrow.
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Jun 26 2025 11:04am
https://x.com/HenMazzig/status/1937838551812465082

Anti Israel activists / criminals in Belgium raided a defense plant and destroyed a bunch of combat vehicles thinking they were being supplied to Israel. They were actually for Ukraine, and now the company thinks it will take them an extra month to repair the damages and ship the armor to Ukraine.


If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck. those are criminals, undermining the war effort and should be properly prosecuted.

You see right from my point of view.

If NATO and the Neocons didn't fuck around with Russia back in 2014.
The West will still be able to maintain her hegemony for a much longer period.

The first person whom Xi Jinping seek an audience with when he came into power was non other than Putin.
And to be honest with you, it took Xi almost 10 years for him to even get Putin to " Ally " with him. And it happen because of the Ukraine war.

Xi wouldn't have gotten his second term if the world didn't turn out the way it is. And please note this. East Asians are very pragmatic. The main congress in China would have elected another new guy over Xi and play the weak role kowtowing to the West especially USA.
You will still be able to siphon as much wealth as possible and make the Chinese look like a weak weak nation. And with a tiny bit of intelligence, move production and manufacturing to other countries just in case.

But the ship has sailed. The greatest mistake the West ever made was to fuck with the Russians in 2014 and they made it even worst with the Ukraine war.


completely agree. The US adventure in Ukraine has to be the most monumentally stupidest decision ever made in US history. Joe Biden, the man who did everything to escalate the conflict.

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Jun 26 2025 11:10am
Are they though? Re establishing a fair trade relationship could be interpreted as poking, China did submit very quickly, but overall we've been very tolerant of China


The Chinese if you know their history have a habit of submitting when necessary. How do you think they are willing to be governed by the Mongols and the Manchurians for a few hundred years each.
They went as far as wearing Pigtails when the Manchurians force them to, and the West always think Chinese means having a pigtail which is not exactly a Han culture.

China could also say they have been very tolerant to the West. It is a simple fact. And it is not just the Han Chinese.. And this I can personally attest to since I mix with the Japanese and the Koreans a lot.

The Han Chinese , Japanese and Koreans do not think they are inferior to the West. They don't really think much of the West to be honest, because they think for the past couple of hundred years, it is a historically anomaly that the West is powerful.

Long story short, like what said and what I said a few years back, a WW3 situation will occurred unless the West is willing back off a little. If not we will definitely see it.

If I am to place a bet , on conventional battles, I will bet all my Forum Gold on the West and I believe 70 to 80% the West is going to beat the Chinese into a pulp.
However in a MAD situation, I will bet all my Forum Gold on the East.
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