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Europe is building a new ‘Iron Curtain’– with millions of landmines
With the threat of Russia on their doorstep, five nations are bolstering their defences by turning to a tactic the world tried to ban
Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland have announced they will leave the Ottawa Convention of 1997, which prohibits anti-personnel landmines. Later in June, all five states are expected to give the United Nations formal notice of their withdrawal, allowing them to manufacture, stockpile and deploy such munitions from the end of the year. Together, they guard 2,150 miles of Nato’s frontier with Russia and its client state of Belarus.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/24/lithuania-iron-curtain-landmines-europe/

Aint that something


This reckless behaviour is a palpable expression of weakness
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This reckless behaviour is a palpable expression of weakness


Estonia and Latvia are weak and vulnerable to a ground invasion by Russia? Don't you say...

I'm not a fan of Finland and particularly Poland doing the same, though. Finland has enough strategic depth and Poland has a strong enough military that they should be able to deal with it without friggin' land mines. :rolleyes:
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Russia hasn't been able to do anything with Ukraine for almost four years now, and here we are talking about invading NATO member countries.
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Jun 26 2025 09:47am
It makes no sense. Nato simply has to say: if you invade any Nato country we will Nuke Moscow.

This is a known and accepted fact by Russia, who do not have aspirations to invade Nato.

The entire thing is a complete farce.
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Estonia and Latvia are weak and vulnerable to a ground invasion by Russia? Don't you say...

I'm not a fan of Finland and particularly Poland doing the same, though. Finland has enough strategic depth and Poland has a strong enough military that they should be able to deal with it without friggin' land mines. :rolleyes:


They're not though while they have the backing of NATO, which has the backing of the USA, which they do and it's codified. This move is them declaring themselves as weak when that's really not the case. It's a statement that they do not have confidence in NATO security guaeantees which sends a message of irrational hysteria, a panicking.

This is very bad because it's engaging in what have been agreed upon as war crimes because of hysterical fear. It's a terrible look which causes their governments to lose credibility. Kaja Kallas should be in the kitchen instead of playing at war.

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It makes no sense. Nato simply has to say: if you invade any Nato country we will Nuke Moscow.

This is a known and accepted fact by Russia, who do not have aspirations to invade Nato.

The entire thing is a complete farce.


I have no doubt that Putin would want to "bring home" the Baltics if he could. Other than that, I agree that the threat of a Russian invasion is overblown.



They're not though while they have the backing of NATO, which has the backing of the USA, which they do and it's codified. This move is them declaring themselves as weak when that's really not the case. It's a statement that they do not have confidence in NATO security guaeantees which sends a message of irrational hysteria, a panicking.

This is very bad because it's engaging in what have been agreed upon as war crimes because of hysterical fear. It's a terrible look which causes their governments to lose credibility.


Trump has repeatedly made statements which threw shade on his willingness to defend the Baltics, and we all know he doesn't give a fuck about US responsibility being codified.

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I have no doubt that Putin would want to "bring home" the Baltics if he could. Other than that, I agree that the threat of a Russian invasion is overblown.





Trump has repeatedly made statements which threw shade on his willingness to defend the Baltics, and we all know he doesn't give a fuck about US responsibility being codified.


So it's engaging in war crimes because of TDS. This is why it looks awful and causes their government to lose all credibility. Its irrational personal hatred of one man.

They said Trump would hand all of Ukraine over to Putin because he's his lapdog or something. That never materialized. Trump is a smart guy with respect to history and he recognizes the Baltics as Germanic (Teutonic) states, his people.

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Jun 26 2025 10:01am
I have no doubt that Putin would want to "bring home" the Baltics if he could. Other than that, I agree that the threat of a Russian invasion is overblown.





Trump has repeatedly made statements which threw shade on his willingness to defend the Baltics, and we all know he doesn't give a fuck about US responsibility being codified.




Have you heard of self fulfilling prophecy?

The more EU and NATO try to push Russia into a corner whereby it can no longer defend itself. Putin might just do that.
It is a very simple concept.

There is a rather peculiar idiom in Mandarin.

"狗急跳墙"

https://www.chineselearning.com/chinese-story/a-desperate-dogs-leaps-the-wall-gou-ji-tiao-qiang

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Have you heard of self fulfilling prophecy?

The more EU and NATO try to push Russia into a corner whereby it can no longer defend itself. Putin might just do that.
It is a very simple concept.

There is a rather peculiar idiom in Mandarin.

"狗急跳墙"

https://www.chineselearning.com/chinese-story/a-desperate-dogs-leaps-the-wall-gou-ji-tiao-qiang


Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering (using landmines)!

They have an unhinged and demonic hatred of Donald Trump, American Conservatives, and ethnic Russians

This post was edited by El1te on Jun 26 2025 10:04am
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Jun 26 2025 10:06am
not to be dramatic but we can expect world war 3 within the next 5 years.
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