How exactly is it bad strategy to open Russia's eyes to the possibility of this war taking a bad turn for them ahead of negotiations? This plays right into the logic I have been stressing for months: as long Russia is winning the status quo and there is no risk for things to go sideways for them, they have no incentive to settle for non-maximalist demands. Game theory dictates that right ahead of negotiations very much IS the point in time when you want to up the ante.

Likewise, you guys keep saying that the Western side is demanding terms which would seem more like Russia losing the war, and I absolutely don't see that. Don't get so hung up on Ukraine not entering the negotiations with a willingness to give up their territory right away. If Ukraine and the West officially cede the territory Russia currently controls and officially renounce any Ukrainian NATO ambitions, that's easily a "good enough" outcome that Putin can frame it as a triumph. And that is a compromise which Trump and the EU would most definitely be willing to make to get this damn war over with.

Idk typically when I’m trying to make up with my wife or w.e. I don’t precede that with a punch in the mouth, usually it’s ’let’s talk about it’

When making peace, we tend to see deescalation not the opposite.

The West still thinks they can get Ukraine into NATO including most of it's territory why would they still continue to escalate and support Ukraine otherwise.

Zelensky isn't prepared to cede territory and officially isn't even in the position to negotiate with Putin thanks to his own law that forbids such negotiations.

You know why he signed that law years ago right, he already knew Ukraine was in a hopeless position and most likely was going to lose territory to the Russians.

Looks like it was a coordinated attack on 5 different airbases across Russia, using commercial shipping semi trucks that acted as drone carriers, deploying multiple drones each from the road, then self-destructing. And we'll probably see in coming hours/days where Russia says they came from, since Ukraine rather obviously has no logistical route to carry out such attacks and these were right across the border from Finland, and any truck on a land route from Ukraine would pass through either the entirety of Russia or else through Finland or through Poland/Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia into Russia and then north again.

This is probably the single biggest military attack carried out against the mainland of a nuclear power in history, if we're not including 9/11 as nationless terrorists.

Lol these are the terms for peace from Ukraine side:



https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1929194656786514186

lmao

You are forgetting the part where they demand to be included in NATO.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-proposals-june-2-talks-with-russia-istanbul-2025-06-01/

Потужно.

What the hell happened to Ukraine? How did they regress into this?

Ukraine drone strikes in Russia ..Destroys 40 Russian planes

Thx for clarifying, i just copy pasted what that account said. Should of known better though, it's pro-Ukrainian and of course would omit asks that make the proposal even more ridiculous.



Yeah idk about 40, pro Ukrainian sources are spamming that figure but from visuals so far it's far fewer. Maybe we get more visuals confirming those numbers eventually.