Like transgenderism?

A huge drone strike was carried out on at least one Russian airbase north of Finland, far from Ukraine at Olenya. Ukraine is claiming credit for damaging or destroying dozens of aircraft, but its right at the NATO border a quarter of the world away in the arctic. Definitely the biggest of the entire war so far and most obviously lost aircraft

Agree with this take. Russians already are pushing into Sumy, they may increase front even further.



This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jun 1 2025 06:15am

I do not know about any Ukrainians wanting to exterminate Jews or say about untermenschen, this is russian propaganda imo.
I mean, technically there could be a few crazy Ukrainians who want to kill all Jews there are in the world, but I think not more than in any other country in the world.
About symbols:
Some people admired how German soldiers conquered nearly all Europe, so they adopted some tactics, customs and symbols.
Like who doesnt want to be the strong one?
Some Ukrainians believed that alliance with Hitler would give them independence from Russia.
It doesnt make them nazi or "Jew hunters".
Also are you aware that one cannot get rid of a tatoo, so if one made himself a tatoo like 15 years ago, he still has it.
Now all Ukraine is fighting together, and far right groups have gotten under Ukrainian government control, which means Azov leadership have distanced themselves from the far-right ideology.

Here is the comparison of Ukraine and Russia nazi status: |
| -------------------------------- | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Electoral power
| Russia: Far-right ideology is mainstreamed within the ruling regime (e.g., imperialism, militarism, ethnic nationalism).
| Ukraine: Far-right parties consistently get <5% in elections and hold no real national power. |

| Key Far-Right Figures/Groups
| Russia: - Vladimir Zhirinovsky (LDPR, openly ultranationalist) - Russian Imperial Movement (RIM) – designated a terrorist group by the U.S. - Wagner Group (far-right mercenaries) - Neo-Nazi gangs like “Rusich” operating in Ukraine
| Ukraine: - Svoboda - Right Sector - National Corps (Azov political wing) All are marginal in electoral terms. |

| Use of Far-Right Symbols
| Russia: Open glorification of Russian imperialism, tsarist symbols, anti-LGBTQ+, anti-West, white supremacist elements in fringe groups.
| Ukraine: Some units or individuals have used far-right or WWII-era nationalist symbols, but Ukraine has officially distanced itself from Nazi ideology. |

| State relationship
| Russia: Russian regime uses far-right rhetoric (e.g., “Greater Russia,” anti-immigrant, anti-liberal).
| Ukraine: Ukrainian state has marginalized far-right groups, despite their participation in early military defense efforts (e.g., Azov). |

| Militancy & Violence
| Russia: Russian far-right mercenaries and groups have conducted torture, executions, and war crimes, particularly in Ukraine.
| Ukraine: Far-right Ukrainian groups have had some isolated incidents of violence, but are under state command or restricted.

The problem with this kind of attack is that anyone can play this game against absolutely anybody. Notably including the Russians when they need to engage in what they call asymmetrical warfare. The genie just went out of the bottle

We are in a completely different phase of this war now and I don't think the media or commentators are catching up
For 3 years we've had a war of attrition with soldiers at the front being killed in trenches, mostly to artillery and drones, with slow advances as Ukrainian manpower dwindles.
Now we're seeing the focus on the US/EU/Ukraine side being asymmetric terrorist attacks against the Russian mainland, attacking deep across Russia at oil refineries, air bases, railroads and other infrastructure and military targets. Perhaps soon, civilian targets. In the past couple days we've gotten an assassination possibly by suicide bomber, drone strikes north of Finland thousands of miles from Ukraine taking out an airbase, two bridges destroyed outside Moscow and a train blown up.

Russia is currently massing troops outside Sumy and it looks to be planning a conventional escalation to the invasion and sweeping towards Dnipro to seize land. And Russia is clearly winning on the ground in the grinding proxy war. What happens now when the focus is brought to direct sabotage and terrorism attacks in the heart of Russia? Can Russia just cope with the kind of vastly disproportionate losses we just saw in Olenya? They lost tens of millions of dollars in equipment, a not-insignificant chunk of their air force. At some point, Russia has to recognize that they cannot take these kinds of losses, because it will either leave them vulnerable to conventional war with NATO, or that its just NATO waging world war 3 against them without Russia striking back. The Russian public's tolerance would be instantly exhausted if any of these attacks hit a civilian target

This is a huge change to the direction of the war and it needs to be recognized, and try to anticipate what's going to happen. Its not the first time Russia has been subjected to a mass terrorism campaign, and look at what they did to Chechnya in response

Chechnya was no where near the scale that Ukraine is though, and Ukraine is entirely supported by a collective apparatus of the two richest continents. Because of this the response could be more deterministic. If the west is going to continue to escalate and use Ukraine as henchmen to destroy Russian military capabilities while pretending it's not the west actually, what does Russia have left to do?

Russian hawks already calling for tactical nukes. We keep inching closer to this becoming reality. And then what? Is the US, UK, France anyone willing to clapback over Ukraine? Of course they are not. So what then?

Well there are still various forms of escalation options for Russia, and we don't know how effective they'd be.

Could Russia pulverize Kiev with a shock and awe conventional bombing that just destroys every building and massacres the population from air strikes? Do they have the kind of missile supply necessary?
Could Russia open up direct sabotage/terrorism campaigns in western countries, in the US/UK/Germany? Whether cyberattacks or drone attacks or assassinations or bombings. Perhaps unacknowledged attacks to send a message without claiming credit, perhaps an overt reciprocal campaign.
Could Russia tell their ground troops to blitz ahead and call a strategic bluff on Ukraine's part and gamble their manpower is so low they could just be overrun at this point?
Could Russia let loose some hypersonic missiles against vulnerable NATO targets in a direct attack, like naval ships or even carriers? No naval strike group can thwart a hypersonic missile

But for Russia's first and foremost consideration: Can they just ignore it? They've been winning the status quo. Its up to NATO and Ukraine to disrupt the losing battle and try to bait Russia into changing tactics and picking a losing fight. Russia has to make the rational calculation of whether they're going to be bled too hard and take too much damage from an asymmetric campaign while they win a slow war of attrition on the battlefield. The most likely answer from Russia's POV is their best option is to just endure it and carry on without doing anything dramatic, though maybe they'll engage in some token airstrikes and mass drone bombings to give the appearance of tit for tat retaliation.

Ignoring it invites more and more escalation, today it's planes, tomorrow it's nuclear power plants and nuclear bases.

Idk what the answer, but for this to happen now yet again shows western halls of power are not interested in peace, they are interested in forcing Russia to make peace on terms that seem more like losing the war. These strikes could of happened 9, 6 months ago, yet they happen on the precipice of peace with the two delegations flying into Istanbul.

If the reports are true, up to 35% of russian aircraft used for bombing could have been destroyed in this attack. That would be a disaster for Russia. Replacing them would be costly and take many years.