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May 21 2025 10:28pm

Demands have definitely grown over time. Months after the start of the war, Russia unilaterally declared 4 oblasts annexed although they didn't control most of them, and now they demand that Ukraine cedes these oblasts.


no?

You can relisten to 23rd February 2022 demands. It’s in the open.
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May 22 2025 12:38am
no?

You can relisten to 23rd February 2022 demands. It’s in the open.


Maybe the demand was already formulated in Russian sources back then, but I'm referring to these events from September 2022:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_annexation_of_Donetsk,_Kherson,_Luhansk_and_Zaporizhzhia_oblasts

At least in Western media, Russian demands for official acknowledgement of their annexation of these four oblasts were only reported since then.



Honestly, it would surprise me if Russia had already demanded Ukraine to officially cede these four oblasts on Feb 23, 2022, one day before the invasion had even begun.

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Maybe the demand was already formulated in Russian sources back then, but I'm referring to these events from September 2022:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_annexation_of_Donetsk,_Kherson,_Luhansk_and_Zaporizhzhia_oblasts

At least in Western media, Russian demands for official acknowledgement of their annexation of these four oblasts were only reported since then.



Honestly, it would surprise me if Russia had already demanded Ukraine to officially cede these four oblasts on Feb 23, 2022, one day before the invasion had even begun.


I went away from the topic when the back and forth between peace negotiations started and neither side really wanted peace. Did Russia or Ukraine make any gains last month? Is there peace in sight at all?
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I went away from the topic when the back and forth between peace negotiations started and neither side really wanted peace. Did Russia or Ukraine make any gains last month? Is there peace in sight at all?


im still "away", waiting for "something" to happen.
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Cool, but I'm just waiting around, hoping nothing goes wrong
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May 22 2025 09:07am
I went away from the topic when the back and forth between peace negotiations started and neither side really wanted peace. Did Russia or Ukraine make any gains last month? Is there peace in sight at all?


I'm not really following it, but it seems like Ukraine is still entirely delusional and uppity and in denial that they must make a peace deal (giving up territories as Russia sees fit) or else lose support & stare down total loss of statehood & capture of Kiev
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May 22 2025 09:54am
Is there peace in sight at all?


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May 22 2025 10:02am
After the Leftist blowback to SA migrants because they're white

basically we now know without a doubt that Leftists want this war to continue because Ukraine and Russia have a lot of white-skinned people who are dying and they want that to continue
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He dragged Ukraine kicking and screaming to the table
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May 22 2025 10:33am
Well, here we go again- brave Ukrainian draft-dodgers are fighting against their own dead heroes who battled the Nazis, all to please the Bandera regime. They shit themselves trying to defend their homeland against the real enemy on the front lines. What a scum. #sucks2bukrainian

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