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May 7 2025 10:22am
What about Koningsberg and Danzig!?


I'd gladly take back Danzig. Absolutely gorgeous city and the entire Baltic Sea coastline is beautiful. The Russians can keep Königsberg/Kaliningrad. Too far to the east and the population has been russified so thoroughly that it would cause us nothing but trouble and costs. :)



The idea that Zelensky would target foreign leaders in Russia is absolutely insane. No sane person would believe this is a possibility. And I think this shows how detached from reality you are towards the Ukraine war in general.

The idea was explicitly framed as rogue Ukrainian ultranationalists doing it, not the official leadership.
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May 7 2025 10:34am
I'd gladly take back Danzig. Absolutely gorgeous city and the entire Baltic Sea coastline is beautiful. The Russians can keep Königsberg/Kaliningrad. Too far to the east and the population has been russified so thoroughly that it would cause us nothing but trouble and costs. :)




The idea was explicitly framed as rogue Ukrainian ultranationalists doing it, not the official leadership.


Really, that official? And when exactly did those elections happen? You know, the ones that took place under martial law- something no other country would even consider (USA, USA!), not to mention the fact that you could vote remotely via the "Diia" app (so convenient that you can get married, divorced, and receive a military summons all in one place)?

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Let's assume that at least 10% more Ukrainians have a mobile phone than have access to central sewage- roughly around 45%. That alone should be enough to vote; it just takes one click. I don’t think all these people have stopped using their phones solely because of the wartime conditions. What do you think?
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May 7 2025 12:42pm
The idea was explicitly framed as rogue Ukrainian ultranationalists doing it, not the official leadership.


https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-not-responsible-for-safety-of-foreign-officials-traveling-to-moscow-for-may-9-parade-zelensky/

And to repeat, I predict that the most direct path to world war 3 and potential for annihilation of the human race in nuclear catastrophe, while remaining low odds, is at its highest in the next week with the potential for Ukraine to attack Putin, Xi Jinping and other aligned heads of state at the V-day parade. As there exists that obvious potential for a repeat of the serbian black hand escapades, Zelensky has.... leaned into it and overtly threatened to attack moscow during the parade. Great.
Its still a remote chance, but that's not a chance that should exist at all and anyone who cares about how Russia and China would be compelled to act if a NATO proxy killed their heads of state would be mindful of the risk


Maybe I'm not able to read English. Could you point out where Goom is pointing to outside Ukrainian actors, not the Ukraine government here?

He literally say Ukraine and Zelensky... I'm not sure what you are referring to Black.

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May 7 2025 01:49pm
Nope, nobody in actual positions of power in the west wants Ukraine to bomb the victory day parade unless they're going full brigadier general ripper and want to stop the russians sapping our bodily fluids.
Its a question of whether we actually have the level of control over the UA forces that we refuse to acknowledge we have. I mean, we still maintain our proxy war deniability and insist we're just facilitating Ukraine carrying out attacks independently, while the unproven assumption is that US special forces are on the ground in Ukraine operating the long range weapons so Ukrainians don't have direct control over them. And if that's the case, we don't have anything to worry about. But if we're giving any level of control over to UA forces, which is what we claim to be doing, then all it takes is one Nazi going rogue and bombing Moscow during the parade
and so far there have been daily long range drone attacks on Moscow with the parade just three days away, and Zelensky is overtly threatening foreign heads of state who attend it

So even if the odds are still remote, they're looking much higher. A drone bombing either the civilians watching the parade or worse, attending heads of state, or worst of all xi jinping himself, would create such an immediate chaos we can't really predict what would happen but we know it wouldn't be good. Very likely all the countries present would declare formal war on Ukraine, at which point the NATO powers have to decide whether they fight world war 3 or let an RU/CN/etc coalition crush Kyiv

At least Modi got an excuse to withdraw from the parade without losing face, saying he's staying home because of the concerns over simmering war with Pakistan.




in that one.

but besides, Zelensky has declined to agree with Russia's ceasefire for the duration of the parade. Its one sided war for 3 days. Zelensky has threatened the world leaders attending, and aimed hundreds of drones specifically at moscow for days now. How nuts do you think he is?
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May 7 2025 01:55pm
^Icemage

in that one.

but besides, Zelensky has declined to agree with Russia's ceasefire for the duration of the parade. Its one sided war for 3 days. Zelensky has threatened the world leaders attending, and aimed hundreds of drones specifically at moscow for days now. How nuts do you think he is?


Unclear to me how agreeing to Russia's propaganda day ceasefire does anything for Ukraine.

Where has he threatened the world leaders? His citizens get bombed by Russia constantly. Considering that fact, why would he agree to a temporary ceasefire so Russia can enjoy some parade? There's no chance Ukraine would target the parade, and it makes perfect sense why he would not agree to the ceasefire.
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May 7 2025 02:00pm
I’m praying he fucks around lmao
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May 7 2025 02:07pm
People who pretend to be realists:

Russia cannot invade other countries besides Ukraine, it is not in their interest.

Zelensky is going to assassinate a bunch of world leaders in Moscow.
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May 7 2025 08:26pm
People who pretend to be realists:

Russia cannot invade other countries besides Ukraine, it is not in their interest.

Zelensky is going to assassinate a bunch of world leaders in Moscow.


The realist argument is that Russia cannot invade NATO because they lack the economic, demographic, and industrial resources to combat NATO.

Russia allegedly discussed deploying tactical nukes if their forces were surrounded near Kherson. At first glance that's suicidal, and yet In context of "If we lose we die", it's arguably the rational decision to make. I don't think it's far fetched at all to suppose that Ukraine (or elements of the same) might conclude that the existential risk to Ukraine necessitates a wider war, whatever the ultimate cost of that might be.
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May 8 2025 08:06am


this is great
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