Didn't think it would have taken this long to be proven right that going into Kursk was retarded and pointless.

Pointless incursion, pointless war. We've taken the scenic bloody route leading to the same outcome for no good reason.

In short, Ukrainian channels are praising the Kursk operation in general, regardless of current events. At best, they report that the entire special forces unit from the "pipe" was destroyed, show footage of strikes on a scattered group, and discuss advances to more advantageous positions (in the Sumy region). Meanwhile, Russian channels are discussing the details of the recent operation, sharing photos of a flag raised in the center of Sudzha, and footage of Putin in a "Orthodox moss"-colored uniform arriving in Kursk.

Microcosm for our policy. It had a superficial strategic reason, to draw Russian forces away from the front, to be a bargaining chip for peace talks, to give a morale victory.
And like the Syrian war before it, Russia responded with a pragmatic, measured response. They didn't overcommit to Kursk, they let it stay an open front and drain away the most experienced Ukrainian soldiers and inflict lopsided casualties
Kneejerk response that America expected was for Russia to view any slice of the motherland held by an opponent as an unthinkable violation and to expend disproportionate resources to reclaim it

How many times before the lesson is learned. You don't punch the jiu jitsu master in the face

Headline - Nothing' for Russia in US ceasefire idea, Kremlin says

as expected. there is no reason for Russia to stop now. There was every reason for Ukraine to stop the war for 2 years. if only there was a pill for regret.

Russia wants to stop the war, not a 30 days break to rearm Ukraine.

the whole notion of a ceasefire now is just stupid. there is literally no reason for russia to accept. i invite anyone to give a good reason and we can debate it.

Putin made a reverse uno on the WEF backed Ukraine/EU leaders. He knows Trump isn't a WEF honcho, so he agreed in principle but put his conditions forward for a long term peace deal and not just a 30 break to resupply Ukraine and to start with the war again:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cgj5w6veqw6t?post=asset%3A8f82fde5-f5d3-4345-9626-e5714738c99b

The MSM is still perplexed and doesn't know how to spin the situation against Putin/Trump. Putin also said in undertones that Russia is actually making gains and there is no real incentive for a ceasefire unless a long-term peace deal is in the works. He thanked Trump and his cabinet for their efforts to make a peace deal happen

This post was edited by babun1024 on Mar 13 2025 11:52am

There seems to be no reason whatsover - unless a 30 day rest regroup rearm would benefit Russia more than Ukraine, which I'm not sure is the case considering Zelensky is still the findomme of the west

The reason for Russia to accept is if it believes the ceasefire can actually become a permanent peace. It can reasonably be in Russia's interests to end the war and claim the prizes its already secured, using the peace as a trade to end western sanctions. Its not in Russia's interest to agree to a ceasefire that would get broken after giving Ukraine time to receive more support from the west. Yet Putin has every reason to believe Trump is sincere in wanting the war to end, while Zelensky and the EU keep blaring their desire to fight on. That leaves Putin in a very uncertain position.

Russia is in the middle of an offensive and there are widespread reports of Ukraine in retreat. a ceasefire would benefit ukraine, not russia, right now.



but thats the thing, its not permanent. the US has also restarted supplying military aid to Ukraine, so its not in Russia's interests to do a ceasefire. stupid US flip flopping. If the US does mixed signals like this then Russia cannot afford a cease fire.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 13 2025 03:15pm