The EU did lots of virtue signaling and photoes with Zelensky with promises to do this or that. Nothing concrete has been done or delivered to Ukraine. EU chiefs are deleting their photoes with Zelensky from social media.

Metric is absolutely silly for real-life measurements.

Metric is very useful for decimal measurements, like you would input into a CAD machine, or for use in precise engineering schematic measurements, or for use in mathematical calculations using floating points. So, it's used in science.

For real hands on stuff? Absolutely silly. Base 2 system is superior, and 1/32" has better resolution than 1 mm (which is 1/25.4"). If you're talking about getting into measuring micrometers you're going on a snipe hunt.

The braindead crusade for everything metric has caused a large loss in efficiency across North America. Double the tools since some braindead countries use metric parts, double the hassle, less efficient output.

I'd like to hear a counter-argument in favour of metric. There really isn't one. All the #1 professors who do real stuff agree with me, like my old professor who is on the board of NASA JPL. You want to go to space? Engineer your parts in Imperial or suffer the consequences. Where's Europe's space force?

This post was edited by El1te on Mar 7 2025 01:12pm

anything you can provide to support? for our western pro-Nato members ofc ofc

let me help!

Specifically, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni is reported to have deleted photos with President Zelensky from her X (formerly Twitter) account
the first of many no doubt.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 7 2025 03:02pm

She pretends Zelenskyy is her ex

For everyday use all systems are good.

Measuring length in feet isn't any better than in cm/m.

When you grow up in a country that uses metric system you intuitively know how long 30cm is, just like you know how long a foot is.

The real advantage would be if the World started using one system. And if that was the case it would be metric, because that's what all the science and engineering uses and that's where all the effort to define terms precisely went.

This post was edited by kayko on Mar 7 2025 04:05pm

Every discipline tends to use it's own units, which are most convenient for the application. That's why there's hundreds of various units for Pressure as one example. Atomic physicists use atomic units (au or Hartree) since it normalizes all physical constants to 1, drastically simplifying equations.

We don't use bar to measure tire pressure, we use PSI, since that application has simple integers ranging from 1 to 100. The Pascal (metric unit) for pressure is almost never used because it's tiny. Have you ever seen weights expressed in units of Newton?

Plumbers will often use inches or feet of water for pressure, since there's a simple relation to pipe heights and hydrostatic pressure. Classical thermometers will use millimeters Hg since that's literally the liquid that's in there. I could go on and on

Only very rarely are SI units actually used, because they're generally quite clunky. A kg is pretty big in alot of applications, a m is pretty long.

There's a reason the PSI tends to be the standard pressure unit in engineering for example. It's applicable. It's categorically false that engineers use metric

This post was edited by El1te on Mar 7 2025 04:21pm

Special applications is different than discussing whether to measure road distance in km or miles. Which I thought were the kind of applications you were alluding to in your previous message.

This post was edited by kayko on Mar 7 2025 04:41pm

There are no special applications, just applications. Road distance is one application.

For road distance, miles and km are within a factor of 2. More or less equivalent thus irrelevant which one is used for distances.

France lost against Britain and now America (Britain spinoff) is the hegemon. America even has its own units, similar to British Imperial but different in some cases e.g. US vs Imperial gallon

Of course there are everyday applications and special applications. Km, liters, kg, seconds (thank god we at least don’t have imperial time measures) are normal applications. Everybody uses them daily. And it would be better if these were standardized, but they won’t be anytime soon.

Parsecs and proton masses are specialized and almost nobody uses them daily. They are ok for their special applications.

Actually, the metric system was being invented to be apolitical, because the scientists were predicting this type of thinking. That’s why they tried to base it on something universal, like the Earth’s diameter and so on.