Now that's just non sense, if you really think moral relativism is right, isn't that also just an opinion that has no weight?

https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1061&context=cedarethics

"As many Western democratic citizens are finally discovering in the days, weeks, and months following September 11, 2001 , moral relativism is profoundly inadequate to address the sharp differences between the worldview of the terrorists and ours. If such a moral framework cannot practically be applied, it should be abandoned. People are comforted knowing that there is an absolute standard of good and bad and right and wrong that they can appeal to when they have been wronged. And who is wronged more than the innocent civilian brutally attacked unawares while trying to provide an honest living for his family?"

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This post was edited by Saphy on Mar 5 2025 10:52am

i have no idea what i just read.

Budanow shares the same fate as ghost of Kiev. Today, he went offline.

sorry link fixed.



No, Jihad is from Muslim doctrine, they were only doing what their book preach, so they were only right in their own eyes.

While they are free to say "God is great", there is an absolute standard of morality that their action is will be judged by. Moral relativism is when you are indifference to the killings of 9/11.

Article on what jihad is thinking about: https://www.usmcu.edu/Outreach/Marine-Corps-University-Press/Expeditions-with-MCUP-digital-journal/Escaping-Atonement-in-Sunni-Islam/

Osama was considered a US ally too

Oh really ? Muahaha, so who is wronged more tell me. You are sitting on conquered land with natives being displaced and subjugated. You have colonized countless of countries and cause severe tragedy worldwide for the past 300 to 400 years.

Now please take note, I am not guilt tripping you. I am a realist. So whatever the fuck you and your people have done to others, it is what it is. That is how the world works and since you won, that is your capabilities and I don't think people should complain or nations should complain because they were corrupted and weak and allowed it to happen.

What annoys me at time is, your bullshit talking about morals and how you think you are above everyone else.
I don't buy that shit at all. No one should.

You have absolutely zero moral legitimacy when discussing world affairs.
So if you want to debate, simple. Be honest of what the fuck you want instead of saying. OH WeaRE HELping yOu bEcAusE YOu ARe so OpPrReSSed.

We don't need the power of woke and the white girl in the world to feel offended for us or re engineer our lives.





Yup, and Saddam was propped up by the CIA to counter the Iranians.

But Saddam went Rogue.

Augusto Pinochet too.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Mar 5 2025 11:13am

Might doesn't make right. Only in totalitarian regime would their own nation looks good in their history text. Righteousness is to recognize the guilt our ancestors so we do not repeat them. All nations will be judged.

So what is the measure? A rules based international order? The same one that vehemently and explicitly pronounced it wouldn't recognize revolutionary juntas that overthrow democracies, but then did exactly that in Ukraine?

What is a righteous cause, is it giving self determination to a disenfranchised people, or supporting a dictator sending his people into a meat grinder?

Damn its real. ISTAR is over i guess.

NRO satellites: kh-11 keyhole, onyx radar sats, SIGINT sats, spaceX, and us space forces TacSRT just went the way of the dodo. Afaik the US is also heavily involved with NATO ISR, so who knows how that works now.

Ukraine just lost a massive fucking advantage