Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 5 2025 08:36am)

So if some Iraqis or Syrians do another 9 / 11 on USA they are ok?

Quote (Saphy @ 5 Mar 2025 21:37)

false analogy. 9/11 has nothing to do with stopping murderer and rapist in their country

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 5 2025 08:38am)

I said if they do another incident similar to 9/11. Not referring directly to 9/11

Quote (Saphy @ 5 Mar 2025 21:42)

What I meant. The right analogy is, if some nation has the ability to do 9/11 everyday, do not appease them just because they have "cards". Their path is to destruction. Without righteousness, there is no peace.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 5 2025 08:51am)

But you are part of the coalition of willing ya ?

So you went into Iraq ( which by now everyone even the government admit that the vial of washing powder of WMD is fake), into Syria, into Libya created a whole mess getting rid of their government (against international law).

With the end result being crap ton of Goat lovers, Doctors and Engineers flooding EU.

Destroyed their lands inside out. Because these goat lovers are so weak their armies are completely crushed by you , they have no choice, they started doing guerilla tactics and terrorist tactics to you to get you out of their countries. It is wrong.

Am I right ?

Quote (Saphy @ Mar 5 2025 07:31am)

Ukraine is defending their citizen, it is not righteous to let their people face worse evil.
"If favor is shown to the wicked,
he does not learn righteousness;
in the land of uprightness he deals corruptly
and does not see the majesty of the Lord.
"

Quote (Saphy @ 5 Mar 2025 22:00)

No, they all have a choice, the choice to do good , or to do evil. If one action causes further greater suffering and restricted true spiritual freedom to seek good, it should not be taken. Thus, it is not right to let Ukraine people fall to totalitarian regime.

Quote (Goomshill @ 5 Mar 2025 17:05)

Ukraine's objective is not to defend their own citizens, it is to seize the DPR/LPR/Crimea from Russia. The people who were disenfranchised by the Maidan and laid siege in the 8 years of civil war.
There has been the opportunity for peace through diplomacy that would recognize the then-autonomy, now-separatism of eastern Ukraine. And to this day, Zelensky and the west have refused to accept it.
It is a pretty small calling from a lens of morality and righteousness, for Ukraine to accept a peace where they do not get to forcibly subjugate those who's democracy they overthrew

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 5 2025 09:08am)

what makes you think you are good and they are evil.

You know how ideological wars and religious wars start ?
Because of people like you who believes you are the only one that is right and others is wrong.

Simple as that.

For example... You think wearing your shoes after running in the mud into a Japanese home is correct because that is what you believe in. But the Japanese totally think it is uncivilized.
Because you don't agree with them, you decided to give them some freedom and democracy, so some of the Japanese who agree with you can have their freedom in wearing muddy shoes into their homes and apartments.

:rofl: