Okay, it looks like the Ukrainian dystrophic never changes his clothes. Go ahead, take a whiff of those sweaty socks, Starmer.

right now, i think Zele dont have any good options, and i mean for himself.
Well, west have tried political force, and it mostly hurt small western europe countrys more than Russia, they can still trade stuff with china and india and all soouth america countrys etc.
i dont see any possible scenario where border line between russia and ukraine would stay in same line as it was 2020, theres no way Putin (or who ever becomes leader after him if something happens to Putin) accepts "lose" situation. It would make Russia look like joke. It's like 10 year old brother saying to 5 year old brother "you give me half of your candys vooluntarely, or i just take them all, its up to you, make choise". Noow Zele is that small brother.

We, Finland, were is exactly same situation in ww2 against soviet union. We accepted loss, gave bit of useless forest to soviet union and we kept our independence. Other scenario was that we continue fight and we lose.
Zelensky could do same, give bit of land and keep independence. I know its not good scenario either, but its "less bad" than losing whole country and losing thousands of civils and soldiers.

Trump is going spicy on zelensky

Zelensky wanted more money and weapons. He demanded the support while showing active disrespect to the President and People of the nation he was demanding it from.

He was rebuffed, told that continued war was not on the table, and sent home like the disrespectful child he was behaving as, and told when he's ready to talk peace, he's welcome back to the White House.

We'll see if he's learned his lesson, or if he's that particularly slow, troubled child. Only time will tell.

As I understand it:



everything EAST of the Dnipro River (the big river running down the center and veering off to the right) is on the table. If Ukraine refuses to negotiate I believe that in its entirety will be the spoils of war, as an Israeli might put it, that they will claim.
Russia does not want all of Ukraine, it would be too unmanageable (as i understand the logic).

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Zelenskyy's arrogant nonsense in front of the American public was so bad that he even lost Lindsay Graham.

https://x.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1895574077584417012?t=73aU-hLTKXSssMmudn-yUQ&s=19

And he's right. How on Earth did Zelenskyy think he could argue with Trump and Vance in front of the media, parroting nonsense old regime propaganda?

Lindsey is GAF Neo Con. Wonder why is he still relevant.
Dude should just retire and let new blood take over.

He's an incredibly skilled snake. He's able to wriggle and maneuver his way through the political morass better than anyone I've seen, he's gotten away with dissing Trump and playing both sides every time because he's always able to get back into Trump's good graces, aided by the fact that he has always been deferential to Trump and Trump views him as a friend.

Dangerous snake. Cannot be trusted.

America seriously needs a new Henry Kissinger.