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China has established a significant presence in many nations across the Western Hemisphere by lending to countries in urgent need, donating public libraries, building ports and roads, and extracting iron ore and vital minerals. Furthermore, trade between China, Latin America, and the Caribbean soared from $12 billion in 2000 to $315 billion in 2020, with projections indicating it could surpass $700 billion by 2035. China is now South America’s largest trading partner, with Brazil’s trade with China exceeding its trade with the U.S. by more than two to one. Beijing currently maintains “strategic partnerships” with 10 of the 11 South American nations it engages with, with Guyana being the only exception, as it maintains only standard bilateral relations.

In January, during a visit to Beijing, I met with Chinese business leaders whose inclination to deepen their investments in Latin America, particularly in Mexico, was unmistakable. Our discussions revealed China no longer perceives Latin America as a resource supplier but as a pivotal part of its ambitious global economic agenda. To illustrate the complexity of this reality, consider Colombia. Seen by many as the staunchest and most loyal U.S. ally in the region, the U.S. is Colombia’s top trading partner, in contrast to the several South American countries whose largest trading partner is China. Still, Chinese imports have surged in recent years, making the Asian behemoth the country’s second-largest trade relationship.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 26 Feb 2025 00:56)

US foreign policy so fucking missed the boat over the last 20 years, it's not even funny. Border line you could say it was run by some Chinese compromised plants. We've wasted hundreds of billions in Ukraine, we've wasted close to 10 trillion in the ME for nothing. Meanwhile:




https://americasquarterly.org/article/latin-americas-china-ties-wont-be-easily-severed/

People need to understand that Ukraine on the list of geopolitical interests is so down the line that we can no longer waste ~100BN a year there. We need to pivot and pivot fast because China's economic tentacles are the real threat. While we're concerned over the Donbass on Russia's doorstep, China has basically captured SA in its back pocket economically. Huge fail in foreign policy, because economic influence translates to geopolitical influence and eventually could evolve in military influence.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Feb 25 2025 12:09pm)

Mate it's too late bro.

You need to have a direct war to turn some things around.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 25 2025 11:56am)

US foreign policy so fucking missed the boat over the last 20 years, it's not even funny. Border line you could say it was run by some Chinese compromised plants. We've wasted hundreds of billions in Ukraine, we've wasted close to 10 trillion in the ME for nothing. Meanwhile:




https://americasquarterly.org/article/latin-americas-china-ties-wont-be-easily-severed/

People need to understand that Ukraine on the list of geopolitical interests is so down the line that we can no longer waste ~100BN a year there. We need to pivot and pivot fast because China's economic tentacles are the real threat. While we're concerned over the Donbass on Russia's doorstep, China has basically captured SA in its back pocket economically. Huge fail in foreign policy, because economic influence translates to geopolitical influence and eventually could evolve in military influence.

Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 25 2025 12:34pm)

On the flip side the recent pivot in us foreign policy of severing ties with western democracies and aligning your country with authoritarian shitholes like Russia, Iran and north korea are bound to improve the world.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 25 2025 12:47pm)

Ending the war in Ukraine =/= aligning ourself with dictators, frankly very dumb framing. Ending the war means we are ending a liability and commitment of $100+BN a year that has little to no tangible benefit to us. This post is a prime example of completely not understanding the dynamics and reflective of the MSM slop. Ukraine is irrelevant, eastern Europe is irrelevant, there is no great economic boom or trade boom happening there for us to secure interests there.

East Asia and southeast Asia is a massively growing economy though, and it's slated to be dominated by China. Even SA is exponentially more important. We in the US should have dominion at the very least over the western hemisphere and it's completely unacceptable that China is likely to hold more influence over SA than we will in near future. And you know why that is? Because of dumb framing that diverted attention from the real issue.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 25 2025 12:47pm)

Ending the war in Ukraine =/= aligning ourself with dictators, frankly very dumb framing. Ending the war means we are ending a liability and commitment of $100+BN a year that has little to no tangible benefit to us. This post is a prime example of completely not understanding the dynamics and reflective of the MSM slop. Ukraine is irrelevant, eastern Europe is irrelevant, there is no great economic boom or trade boom happening there for us to secure interests there.

East Asia and southeast Asia is a massively growing economy though, and it's slated to be dominated by China. Even SA is exponentially more important. We in the US should have dominion at the very least over the western hemisphere and it's completely unacceptable that China is likely to hold more influence over SA than we will in near future. And you know why that is? Because of dumb framing that diverted attention from the real issue.

Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 25 2025 12:59pm)

What if anything in Trump's policies do you think is going to improve the usas dominion in the western hemisphere. Do you actually expect to annex canada?

Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 25 2025 09:47am)

Ending the war in Ukraine =/= aligning ourself with dictators, frankly very dumb framing. Ending the war means we are ending a liability and commitment of $100+BN a year that has little to no tangible benefit to us. This post is a prime example of completely not understanding the dynamics and reflective of the MSM slop. Ukraine is irrelevant, eastern Europe is irrelevant, there is no great economic boom or trade boom happening there for us to secure interests there.

East Asia and southeast Asia is a massively growing economy though, and it's slated to be dominated by China. Even SA is exponentially more important. We in the US should have dominion at the very least over the western hemisphere and it's completely unacceptable that China is likely to hold more influence over SA than we will in near future. And you know why that is? Because of dumb framing that diverted attention from the real issue.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 26 Feb 2025 01:47)

Ending the war in Ukraine =/= aligning ourself with dictators, frankly very dumb framing. Ending the war means we are ending a liability and commitment of $100+BN a year that has little to no tangible benefit to us. This post is a prime example of completely not understanding the dynamics and reflective of the MSM slop. Ukraine is irrelevant, eastern Europe is irrelevant, there is no great economic boom or trade boom happening there for us to secure interests there.

East Asia and southeast Asia is a massively growing economy though, and it's slated to be dominated by China. Even SA is exponentially more important. We in the US should have dominion at the very least over the western hemisphere and it's completely unacceptable that China is likely to hold more influence over SA than we will in near future. And you know why that is? Because of dumb framing that diverted attention from the real issue.