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Feb 16 2025 08:21pm
And Russia is being propped up big time in both military and economic terms by China and Iran. Where would they be if China didn't help them defang the Western sanctions? Where would they be without the Iranian drones?



Yes, they're very focused on not exposing any flanks or supply lines, after they got burned this way time and time again during the initial 8 months of this war. Nonetheless, the notion that Russia is completely chilled, under no pressure whatsoever and could push a lot harder/faster if they wanted to, isn't plausible if you ask me.

They wouldn't go around begging for troops in freakin' North Korea and Yemen, or offer increasingly huge sums for those who enlist voluntarily, if they had no recruitment issues.
They wouldn't let Ukraine hold parts of their own territory (Kursk) for a whole year if they had huge amounts of reserves up their sleeve.
You wouldn't have had a dispute over insufficient supplies between their official military and their proxy forces turn so bitter that the mercenaries eventually marched on Moscow.

Imho, the current Russian efforts are roughly the maximum they can do without going on a true all-out wartime footing. It looks like it will have been just enough to secure their core objectives, so kudos to them. But nothing I've seen over the past 1-2 years proves those of you right who argued that Russia was a behemoth who could crush Ukaine with ease if only it stopped fooling around and took off the gloves.


This is nonsense. Russia sells oil and gas to China. It's a symbiotic trading relationship, the Russians gets things in exchange for other valuable goods. The Russian's aren't getting a single free thing from China to further Russia's war in Ukraine (outside of diplomatic support). It's the same deal with Iran. Ukraine literally gives nothing to the west and takes in billions of essentially free weapons and funding to continue the war. One country is using its own natural resources and wealth to fund while another is close to 100% dependent on outside aid, that's why you see Zelensky at literally all of these conferences never ceasing drumming up support. Can you show me a single example of where Russia was begging in a similar fashion from anyone?

It's the same deals with NK or whoever you want to throw in, you frankly sound dumb both siding this issue, because they're no where near close in equivalence. Before this war Russia was the second largest global arms exporter and they've always maintained a robust war machine that they've inherited from soviet times. Their war machine is basically able to outproduce the collective west, at the very least match it currently. If they weren't a behemoth Ukraine with this level of outside help would of probably been able to kick them out of the Donbas, but here we are.

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Feb 17 2025 01:25am
Results of the war:
Retreating on all fronts from the "orcs," with one shovel for every three people and ammunition for only 2-3 days, left without electricity, heating, toilets, or microwaves, raped by their own mercenaries, and still owing 500 billion dollars, the Ukrainians are somehow happy that life in Russia is supposedly worse. So their wealthier fellow villagers, who had enough money to flee from "Country 404" to faraway places, told them. Apparently, that million Ukrainian refugees in Russia even managed to compare living conditions, while their less fortunate colleagues feed worms in the trenches.
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Feb 17 2025 04:52am
The pathetic orcs still couldn't bring Great Ukraine, the heir to heroes like Bandera and... Bandera, two Banderas, (ay mi morena de mi corazón), to its knees. That's why they deceitfully elected Trump once again.
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Feb 17 2025 05:01am
The pathetic orcs still couldn't bring Great Ukraine, the heir to heroes like Bandera and... Bandera, two Banderas, (ay mi morena de mi corazón), to its knees. That's why they deceitfully elected Trump once again.


I don't know about Bandera but the far left has got an idiological problem: is Trump the new Hitler or Putin? They need their nazi target.
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Feb 17 2025 06:23am
I don't know about Bandera but the far left has got an idiological problem: is Trump the new Hitler or Putin? They need their nazi target.


Aren't they two for the price of one?



"Гріх — зрадити своїх", ну якщо, звичайно, ти не жидів, а українців вважаєш своїми, Зеленський.

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Feb 17 2025 07:39am
I don't know about Bandera but the far left has got an idiological problem: is Trump the new Hitler or Putin? They need their nazi target.


I don’t understand it either.

Is Russia weak and is about to collapse as their hungry conscripts are fighting with rusty shovels and stolen porcelain toilets?

Or they are so powerful that they will roflstomp Europe in 3 days while buying out and influencing the richest people in the world like Trump & Musk.

The liberal hysteria knows no bounds.

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Feb 17 2025 07:55am
I don’t understand it either.

Is Russia weak and is about to collapse as their hungry conscripts are fighting with rusty shovels and stolen porcelain toilets?

Or they are so powerful that they will roflstomp Europe in 3 days while buying out and influencing the richest people in the world like Trump & Musk.

The liberal hysteria knows no bounds.


The answer is: It sucks to be a Ukrainian
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Feb 17 2025 09:11am
Ukraine attacked Kazakhstan oil infrastructure disabling Kropotkinskaya pumping station of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium cutting off ability of Kazakhstan to export crude via Novorossiysk. Some added color for the talks in Saudi Arabia.

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Feb 17 2025 12:54pm
Trump ‘will WITHDRAW US troops from Nato’s Russia frontline in Baltics in bombshell Ukraine peace agreement with Putin’
Trump is now considering withdrawing US troops from the Baltics and perhaps even further west, reports the Financial Times.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/33421381/trump-withdraw-us-troops-natos-russia-baltics-ukraine/

Maybe the Russians take the Baltics when no ones looking.
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Feb 17 2025 05:44pm
fool me once shame on me. fool me twice ...

there should be no problem simply cutting and pasting w/e is there... it would not be the first time someone dumped information in the thread.


You are as b4d at it trying to be funny with your fake antivirus allert as been in LLD, mr. dupe user.

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Back on topic, dns.pl in 2017 put on public information that .mil.pl domain managed by NASK is now being managed both registration and maintaining by Ministry of Defence.

Thus link is valid
https://csirt-mon.wp.mil.pl/aktualnosci/analysis-of-the-cyberattack-on-ukrainian-government-resources/
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