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Feb 13 2025 12:04pm
what that shows (for ppl not understanding) is that the EU is NOT capable of creating a defense framework / deterrent without the US.
so they are in lala land right now throwing all their toys while they figure out how to find a win right now.


Indeed - an additional source of info from this is it shows which nations are more serious and which ones are not. Poland is punching above its weight class at 3.9 %GDP, while Germany and France, pillars of European identity who often bark the loudest about Russia, aren't even meeting their minimum quota. Contemptible.
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Feb 13 2025 12:10pm
Indeed - an additional source of info from this is it shows which nations are more serious and which ones are not. Poland is punching above its weight class at 3.9 %GDP, while Germany and France, pillars of European identity who often bark the loudest about Russia, aren't even meeting their minimum quota. Contemptible.


Poland wants to be Germany 2.0 the only problem is the government is a bit too eager to start ww3.
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Feb 13 2025 12:15pm
Poland wants to be Germany 2.0 the only problem is the government is a bit too eager to start ww3.


Poland is the cheese in the sandwich. 3.9% of little is little.
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Feb 13 2025 12:28pm
Poland GDP 2023: 811Bn
Germany GDP 2023: 4456Bn

That means Germany roughly has an econ 5.5x bigger than Poland

So in reality, their 1.57% expenditures *5.5x= is roughly 8.6% in Poland's terms. In absolute terms, Germany is spending over 2x what Poland is.

The people that keep wanting Germany to spend more, are the same ones telling you that if you don't Russia will be in Berlin. Fear based on lies.

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Poland GDP 2023: 811Bn
Germany GDP 2023: 4456Bn

That means Germany roughly has an econ 5.5x bigger than Poland

So in reality, their 1.57% expenditures *5.5x= is roughly 8.6% in Poland's terms. In absolute terms, Germany is spending over 2x what Poland is.

The people that keep wanting Germany to spend more, are the same ones telling you that if you don't Russia will be in Berlin. Fear based on lies.


Yes, the chart shows both absolute values and %GDP

Germany has abysmally low support for NATO
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Feb 13 2025 12:30pm
Poland GDP 2023: 811Bn
Germany GDP 2023: 4456Bn

That means Germany roughly has an econ 5.5x bigger than Poland

So in reality, their 1.57% expenditures *5.5x= is roughly 8.6% in Poland's terms. In absolute terms, Germany is spending over 2x what Poland is.

The people that keep wanting Germany to spend more, are the same ones telling you that if you don't Russia will be in Berlin. Fear based on lies.


what does the german military industrial complex look like? or are they just purchasing US weapons rather than making them?

the whole thing screams of Iraq circa 2001, bunches of people telling you we need war that all secretly hold MIC stocks.
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Feb 13 2025 12:37pm
what does the german military industrial complex look like? or are they just purchasing US weapons rather than making them?

the whole thing screams of Iraq circa 2001, bunches of people telling you we need war that all secretly hold MIC stocks.


Probably a mix if i had to guess without knowing too much? These people of course are speaking their book. Even if they don't own the stock, they have friends that would directly benefit from these multi billion investments into war.

The thing though, the threat is a mirage. Those funds can be better used for a huge list of better investments. Germany and other western/northern Europe are likely to face way more threats from internally as they've imported millions of Muslims.

People to this day still don't understand that Ukraine was different from Russia POV and was a no go. That doesn't mean they are eager to send tanks into Poland or Germany. Their econ wouldn't be able to take a war of that magnitude, unless they go full agro with nukes.
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Trump Announces He’s Negotiating END To Ukraine War!
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A little birdie told me that they are already printing voting ballots in Ukraine.
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NAFO on suicide watch.

What a sight to behold:
https://x.com/frontlinekit/status/1889988756335436123?

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