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Feb 4 2025 04:49am
Ain't it better than hiding in Budenets/Ebunets? :)
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Feb 4 2025 06:01am
You are back again with more factual lies. It’s a duty of any honorable man to call out blatant lies and deceit wherever possible.

Money sent to Ukraine got stolen in unprecedented proportions by everyone and their grandmas. This is a fact and is widely known. I was skiing in Verbier few weeks back and holy shit the amount of luxury Ukranian cars and Ukranian women at the apreskis is mindboggling. Making a quick stop on their way to Davos. Guess where your hard earned tax money went? Propping up corruption and neonazis. Don’t complain when they come for Poland.

https://i.imgur.com/boEBjLd.png

Russians were consistent in NO NATO demand for decades. Gorbachev, Yeltsin, now Putin.

Here is Yeltsin discussing with Clinton in 1996 that Ukraine cannot be in NATO. This is all well researched and public with minutes and scans. Educate yourself instead of spreading lies.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nato-75-russia-programs/2024-07-09/nato-russia-charter-1997-was-forced-step-said

“The narrative” is crumbling. Get in line with the new party line (pun intended).


"Fact widely known" and yet no proof given.
Ukrainians skiing and luxury cars doesnt mean USA money was stolen.
Obviously many people ran away from the war, and there were many rich people among them.
The Ukraine cannot control them any longer after they left Ukraine, they cannot tax them to support the war effort.
In fact Ukraine before the war was a country of big contrast: there were many rich people, and more numerous poor people, and not many middle class.
But even if you werent rich:
One of the easy way for Ukraine women to be rich: lose some weight, do makeup and date an Swiss/EU citizen and "put your hands" on his wallet.
Once again no money was stolen, these Swiss/EU people fall in love and hand out their wallets on their own free will.

Here is link about 20 years changing views on Ukraine:
https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/accepting-nato-aspirations-denazifying-20-years-putins-changing-views-ukraine

This post was edited by Ironfister on Feb 4 2025 06:04am
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Feb 4 2025 06:22am
Ain't it better than hiding in Budenets/Ebunets? :)


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In the land where propaganda thrives,
They pay with bream to keep it alive.
A fishy currency, a curious trade,
For words that twist, and truths that fade.

In Ebenets, the days drag slow,
A sleepy town where nothing grows.
The streets are quiet, the air is still,
A place where time has lost its will.

One wonders, as the nights grow long,
Is there a sewer, where waste belongs?
Or does it linger, beneath the ground,
In Ebenets, where silence sounds?

Oh, life is dull in this modest place,
Where bream and boredom interlace.
A town of questions, a life of wait,
In Ebenets, where time stagnates.
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Feb 4 2025 06:49am
"Fact widely known" and yet no proof given.
Ukrainians skiing and luxury cars doesnt mean USA money was stolen.
Obviously many people ran away from the war, and there were many rich people among them.
The Ukraine cannot control them any longer after they left Ukraine, they cannot tax them to support the war effort.
In fact Ukraine before the war was a country of big contrast: there were many rich people, and more numerous poor people, and not many middle class.
But even if you werent rich:
One of the easy way for Ukraine women to be rich: lose some weight, do makeup and date an Swiss/EU citizen and "put your hands" on his wallet.
Once again no money was stolen, these Swiss/EU people fall in love and hand out their wallets on their own free will.

Here is link about 20 years changing views on Ukraine:
https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/accepting-nato-aspirations-denazifying-20-years-putins-changing-views-ukraine


My man, have you been sleeping under a rock?

Even Zelensky himself says “we receive only half” implying the rest is stolen by various unscrupulous characters along the value chain. Quote from none other than Kiev Independent - a known Ukranian propaganda outlet: https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-has-received-less-than-half-of-us-assistance-allocated-during-full-scale-war-zelensky-says/

People driving luxury cars with Ukranian license plates in Swiss ski resorts can freely travel in and out of Ukraine, unlike common folk who are stuck and cannot leave. Just pay off your friendly recruitment officer to have an “official” reason to go pick up your latest Hermes handbag delivery. I don’t think your mate here has enough FG to do that just yet and I wonder if FG is even valid legal tender with nazi manhunting squads in Western Ukraine.

I have not seen a single Russian driving license in Geneva/ Verbier even though they were a common occurrence before. Why is that?

You are posting links to literal trash propaganda outlets written by pubescent NAFO imbeciles, while im linking you declassified US National Security archives. I believe in this case my sources are a tad more respectable.

This post was edited by Malopox on Feb 4 2025 06:52am
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Feb 4 2025 07:23am
My man, have you been sleeping under a rock?

Even Zelensky himself says “we receive only half” implying the rest is stolen by various unscrupulous characters along the value chain. Quote from none other than Kiev Independent - a known Ukranian propaganda outlet: https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-has-received-less-than-half-of-us-assistance-allocated-during-full-scale-war-zelensky-says/

People driving luxury cars with Ukranian license plates in Swiss ski resorts can freely travel in and out of Ukraine, unlike common folk who are stuck and cannot leave. Just pay off your friendly recruitment officer to have an “official” reason to go pick up your latest Hermes handbag delivery. I don’t think your mate here has enough FG to do that just yet and I wonder if FG is even valid legal tender with nazi manhunting squads in Western Ukraine.

I have not seen a single Russian driving license in Geneva/ Verbier even though they were a common occurrence before. Why is that?

You are posting links to literal trash propaganda outlets written by pubescent NAFO imbeciles, while im linking you declassified US National Security archives. I believe in this case my sources are a tad more respectable.


You didnt read what I said, or play dumb.
They received only half because the rest stayed in USA, for example assist refugees who came to USA.
That's the whole point. Trump said money went to Ukraine, while it stayed in USA and was spent somewhere by USA government.
That's the whole point dude.
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Feb 4 2025 07:51am
You didnt read what I said, or play dumb.
They received only half because the rest stayed in USA, for example assist refugees who came to USA.
That's the whole point. Trump said money went to Ukraine, while it stayed in USA and was spent somewhere by USA government.
That's the whole point dude.


Don't you find it strange that the US has accepted 4 times fewer refugees from Ukraine than Poland? And, by the way, let's compare the amounts spent by the US and Poland on this.
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Feb 4 2025 08:10am
You didnt read what I said, or play dumb.
They received only half because the rest stayed in USA, for example assist refugees who came to USA.
That's the whole point. Trump said money went to Ukraine, while it stayed in USA and was spent somewhere by USA government.
That's the whole point dude.


lulz

Ukraine is completely corrupt. Even ministers had to be removed because of corruption this is a well known fact.

If you believe all those billions were skimmed off in the US or went to Ukrainian refugees in the US you're daydreaming. Or refer to the bolded part ;)
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Feb 4 2025 08:19am
Don't you find it strange that the US has accepted 4 times fewer refugees from Ukraine than Poland? And, by the way, let's compare the amounts spent by the US and Poland on this.


Poland is closer than Ukraine.
Also in Poland Ukrainians have to work, while in USA maybe refugees dont have to work and live on government pension (I dont know, just guessing)

This post was edited by Ironfister on Feb 4 2025 08:19am
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Feb 4 2025 08:51am
Your naivety and maximalism are charming. How did you manage to live to 40 with them? :)
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