"Creation Scientist Shocks Joe Rogan with Mind-Blowing Evidence Against Evolution!" #God #Evolution

interesting video nontheless

No person is EVER definitively an "atheist" nor is a person ever truly "agnostic" these are terrible binding and confining terms for people who never took the time to study "Gnosticism" or "Atheism" in their totality because had you done that you would see how foolish that sounds.

There is no such thing as a "nihilist". They would immediately commit suicide. Nor an "atheist" because in the attempt to negate all of theology you are bound by it not above it on any level intellectual or other. No "agnostic" you might as well say, "I'm open to thinking about new things but don't want to go past that or deeper then what I'm comfortable with(bias/ego/preconception). You've essentially already made your decision the same way a theist says, "God exists" with no argument.

You as a self proclaimed "atheist" actually DO have to put up an argument against "theist" because you are ACCEPTING that there is an ARGUMENT to be had when you say, "I'm an atheist". YOU as your EGO are making the proclamation that somehow deep down you know that all of what theists believe is horse shit.

Who are you? You say "God" does not exist but who says "God" is existing or not existing. What's your definition of God because not everyone's is a "floating man in the heavens". Do you believe in God as "formed" or "formless". Do you create the parameters of the universe that was given to you? Because this is why are ancient ancestors created religion/god in the first place. To remember and honor EXISTENCE itself and the EXEMPLARY beings amongst us namely "Jesus Christ" and "Buddha" to be quite honest.

Always understand that anytime you say "I" you are actually speaking as "GOD" the formed because you are SEPARATING yourself by WORD/NAME from what has been and always was ONE. You don't exist. You are given a name at birth nothing more. Is that who YOU are? No. The raw human being is God incarnate. Name a creature that gives itself a name and proclaims dominion over all things. Man. In his MIND.

In the Bible in the beginning was the word and the word was God.

What's the "fall of man". What's the "banishment from Eden". Why did "Lucifer" get tossed out of heaven? Metaphorically speaking.

When we separated ourselves from "God" the "Gods" or as you called it, "The science and nature and shit" WE as HUMANS creating structures/language/symbols/stories/science to try and "EXPLAIN" the "UNKNOWN" created our own universe of FALSE REALITY that we collectively as humans AGREE UPON.

A simpler example. A baby constantly says "da-da-da" in Sanskrit that means "that-that-that". The baby has not developed the EGO yet and so all THINGS that exist around it are just THAT. THAT is GOD.

Nothings humans have ever said or done in all our existence has anything to do with "God" or "no God" it is simply "that".

We created "God" and "Science" and both are meaningless mundane tools.

A Buddhist monk sitting in total peace and oneness with the Earth doesn't want to argue for a thousand years about "atheism/theism". The Hindus and Buddhist already did that for 1500 years. The Abrahamic folk and "New Age" folk should read more.

The whole "god" "no god" conversation was debated by the greatest philosophers in the East and that's where I think you should START your journey in ending your "agnostic atheistic tendencies".

Why am I saying this you may ask? Because 13 years ago I found myself saying something similar and instead of standing on a platitude I spent a decade finding the answer for myself. Seek and ye shall find brother.

If you even begin to seek(whatever seeking might mean to you) I can almost guarantee you will be pissed at yourself for calling yourself "Atheist/Agnostic".

He is an atheist who does not believe in himself. The old religions said that he was an atheist who did not believe in God. The new religion says that he is the atheist who does not believe in himself.

The people say, “Do you believe in God? Do you believe in a future life? Do you believe in this doctrine or that dogma?” But here the base is wanting: this belief in oneself. Ay, the man who cannot believe in himself, how can they expect him to believe in anything else? I am not sure of my own existence. One moment I think that I am existing and nothing can destroy me; the next moment I am quaking in fear of death.

Be an atheist if you want but do not believe in anything unquestioningly

An atheist can be charitable but not religious but the religious man must be charitable

The Vedanta teaches men to have faith in themselves first. As certain religions of the world say that a man who does not believe in a Personal God outside of himself is an atheist, so the Vedanta says, a man who does not believe in himself is an atheist. Not believing in the glory of our own soul is what the Vedanta calls atheism.

All quotes from Swami Vivekananda on atheism/ist who himself was at one point an atheist.

I am definitely an atheist, no suicidal thoughts involved. No idea, why you would say no one is an atheist. Also, I never said God doesnt exist. I said, I dont believe god exists. Thats what I said. I also believe we can never know if god exists.

Seems like you try to go into the "Why are we" philosophical convo. The answer is - in my opinion - that there is no "why". I dont think life has any objective meaning. Nothing has meaning apart from the meaning every individual gives things in his life.
If god would indeed exist, he would also be pointless and meaningless apart from the importance every individual sees in god for itself.
The universe or existence itself are objectively as pointless as a gummy bear left under a desk of someone's kitchen. Subjecticely, individually, thats a different story of course.

Yes, I am an atheist. 100%.

You don't exist. No one exists. The MIND creates the illusion we exist. Only God exists. God alone. There is no separation only the mind makes it so. There are no atheists and theists because the murmurings of man are MEANINGLESS and CRYPTICALLY MISCONSTRUED. All before you is MAYA or "illusion". You only exist in the minds of those you've known and those who call out your name. Your entire existence is meaningless and all through each day you will do the mundane tasks because there is no purpose to human life. Right?

YOU are GOD you are just lying to yourself and playing games.

The entire "Theism vs Atheism" debates was to push people away from spiritualty and into this bipolar state of "God vs no God" so instead of POTENTIALLY GROWING and learning about it ALL you instead take a SIDE. That's why I said you are using your atheism as a platitude.

Atheists are just fake Buddhist who are too lazy to research all of theology and methodology.

The debate between God and no God happened between Hinduism and Buddhism for 1000 years before Jesus Christ came onto the seen and said, "I am God".

All I'm telling you is there's more to the story of "atheism" and it seems like your not well read in it which is just as bad as a person who "Believes in Jesus Christ" but never read the Bible.

I was raised Catholic and I never took it seriously and I chalked it up to all bullshit. Never liked going to church. I fell into that category of "agnostic/atheist".

Then at 19 I had a near death experience and it confirmed my beliefs and sent me on a path to find out how other cultures viewed "Jesus Christ" and by natural proximation you end up right at Hinduism/Buddhism if you are looking for the truth.

You are right there is no "why" "when" "where" only WHAT and guess what that WHAT is lol.......GOD

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Feb 4 2025 03:24am

Oh, I do absolutely exist. Even an illusion of existence would 1:1 equal existence.
God could be just as much of an illusion as anything else. Your point is no point. Theres also not really a debate god vs. no god for me. My existence is not more or less meaningfull than the existence of god objectively.
Its all just as important or not important and its all just as real or not real.

What counts in only what i make of it. For me, my existence is meaningful and real. Also for me, the existence of god is meaningless. It doesnt have an affect on me. Its always a subjective perspective when it comes to pointless or meaningless. For me, my existence is very meaningful while the likely or unlikely existence of god is absolutely meaningless to me. There is no objective measurement to counter this.

This post was edited by Saurod on Feb 4 2025 03:25am

The illusion of existence does not equal existence it actually PROVES through and through its not.

You know sort of like the "Big Bang" "Something out of NOTHING" or was it "Something out of something". Those damn scientist and their big theories are way too smart for me!

Here's what I'll say and/or reiterate and I'll quote Vivekananda again, He is an atheist who does not believe in himself. The old religions said that he was an atheist who did not believe in God. The new religion says that he is the atheist who does not believe in himself.

I am not saying or even caring about your belief in a god or not. I don't think most people who identify as an atheist believe in themselves.

I'm saying you are God because all that is before you is God. Hindus say all is Brahman because there is no causality outside that.

You can say all before me is god, you can say nothing has ever been god. Thats just a pointless salad of pseudo-meaningful words.

By the way, scientists never said a) "Something out of nothing" and b ) never said the big bang theory would be the truth or a fact. So dont act like a nutjob by claiming that would be the case.

What we experience here on earth is our existence for us, our reality. That is a fact. Even if our world and our life was some sort of simulation or illusion of some level it would still be our reality, it would still be what we experience and it wouldnt matter on which level it would not be "real" or "untrue" or whatever you would want to call it. It simply wouldnt matter. It also doesnt matter what hindus say or what Brahma says or what any other religion says. It just doesnt matter. All is god, nothing is god, whatever, its all the same.

This post was edited by Saurod on Feb 4 2025 04:40am

i understand his "argument" is .............. he chose 'atheism because he chose 'atheism and no reasoned argument is required why 'atheism was chosen