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Feb 2 2025 05:05am
I don't care if USA finances Ukrainian propaganda or doesn't at all lol. Even without Ukrainian propaganda its crystal clear to everyone what Russia and their new best buddy North Korea is.

1. 2. https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/how-america-s-aid-to-ukraine-actually-works https://www.csis.org/analysis/how-supporting-ukraine-revitalizing-us-defense-industrial-base educate yourself on the matter please.
3. Majority of people do not support a war of any kind (even in Russia but its fascist regime doesn't care what its people think)


1. Claiming that the US is benefitting by removing our current military readiness to re-spark old manufacturing for Cold War era weapons is not a thing. Claiming that spinning up the war machine when we're not at war is a benefit is completely idiotic. But, it IS consistent with you being a warmonger, so fair enough. You have a right to your opinion, no matter how stupid.

3. Once again, you seek war because of your opinion that Putin is the big bad, and any means to defeat him is good. Yet you can't articulate why the leader of a sovereign nation you are not a part of should be your problem whatsoever.

You have failed to even make a rational argument regarding why I, as an American, should be pushing for ANYTHING in favor of Ukraine. Were I the activist type, I'd be pushing to remove the sanctions against Russia. Losing access to their raw materials has done more damage to our agricultural and industrial base in the US than any singular action in my lifetime.

In the end, in supporting the Dictator of Ukraine, the US has further gutted it's own production, which benefits China, an actual Communist nation, at the expense of the American worker. Nothing more. But your hatred for "the evil Putin" says we should sacrifice all our wealth and blood for Ukraine. Why, exactly, would I give two shits less about your nonsensical bullshit when you aren't an American? You're just another petty foreigner trying to dictate to your betters what we should believe and how we should act. Pathetic. If you want war with Russia, go to your own government and convince them to pick a fight. While you're at it, get off the fucking internet and go FIGHT the war you are encouraging. Put your own life on the line, little keyboard warrior. Stop dictating to people who have zero reason to listen to or respect your opinion what WE should do with OUR wealth and with OUR blood. :)

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 2 2025 05:07am
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1. Claiming that the US is benefitting by removing our current military readiness to re-spark old manufacturing for Cold War era weapons is not a thing. Claiming that spinning up the war machine when we're not at war is a benefit is completely idiotic. But, it IS consistent with you being a warmonger, so fair enough. You have a right to your opinion, no matter how stupid.

3. Once again, you seek war because of your opinion that Putin is the big bad, and any means to defeat him is good. Yet you can't articulate why the leader of a sovereign nation you are not a part of should be your problem whatsoever.

You have failed to even make a rational argument regarding why I, as an American, should be pushing for ANYTHING in favor of Ukraine. Were I the activist type, I'd be pushing to remove the sanctions against Russia. Losing access to their raw materials has done more damage to our agricultural and industrial base in the US than any singular action in my lifetime.

In the end, in supporting the Dictator of Ukraine, the US has further gutted it's own production, which benefits China, an actual Communist nation, at the expense of the American worker. Nothing more. But your hatred for "the evil Putin" says we should sacrifice all our wealth and blood for Ukraine. Why, exactly, would I give two shits less about your nonsensical bullshit when you aren't an American? You're just another petty foreigner trying to dictate to your betters what we should believe and how we should act. Pathetic. If you want war with Russia, go to your own government and convince them to pick a fight. While you're at it, get off the fucking internet and go FIGHT the war you are encouraging. Put your own life on the line, little keyboard warrior. Stop dictating to people who have zero reason to listen to or respect your opinion what WE should do with OUR wealth and with OUR blood. :)


Looks like you have serious issues accepting information that goes beyond the scope of your schizoid view of the world. All of this has been explained in links I provided.

Nobody telling you to do anything, judging by your poor vocabulary and emotional persona you can't do much anyway.

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Looks like you have serious issues accepting information that goes beyond the scope of your schizoid view of the world. All of this has been explained in links I provided.

Nobody telling you to do anything, judging by your poor vocabulary and emotional persona you can't do much anyway.


NOTHING was explained by the links you provided. The synopsis of those links is, "By giving away a bunch of weapons and ammo, the US has forced old weapons contractors to reopen weapon manufacturing facilities that've been long closed." That doesn't benefit American safety NOW. It'll be a decade before we've resupplied what we lost giving our shit away to Ukraine. Further, the US Taxpayer is on the hook for somewhere near a trillion dollars to reinvigorate Cold War era weapons manufacturing. In the day of drone swarms, we're growing STRONGER by restarting mass production of 50+ year old equipment! Woohoo! Again, dumber than a brick. And I feel bad even comparing you to a brick. Poor brick.

And yes, you ARE telling us we should support Ukraine. Yet you have absolutely NOTHING to say as to WHY we should support Ukraine. ALL you have spoken of is your hatred for Putin. Not even your hatred for Russia. Simply your hatred for Putin.

Please show us on the doll where Putin touched you, that you seek to promote war against the Russian Federation to try to "get him". Go on, I'll wait.
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Truly admirable display of patience and perseverance from here. Absolutely demolishing this draft dodger I see.

Hopefully the war is over soon and our friend here doesn’t need to fear mancatching squads that roam the streets of his village anymore.

In other news Poland / Hungary / Romania should just annex his village so he’s finally a part of EU / NATO.
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Feb 2 2025 05:34am
Britain post-poned elections during world war 2 as well, it's a logical thing to do while you are being invaded. You need to read up what Martial Law is and entails.


This just in --> https://www.reuters.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-hold-elections-following-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-2025-02-01/

Trump aint messing around and he won't jeopardize America for Ukraine or for any country.

Start counting your days ;)

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Feb 2 2025 05:36am
This just in --> https://www.reuters.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-hold-elections-following-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-2025-02-01/

Trump aint messing around and he won't jeopardize America for Ukraine or for any country.

Start counting your days ;)

https://i.imgur.com/MZtNVZn.jpg


Wow I came into this thread as Fnall, and now I am Zelenski himself :D


https://i.imgur.com/YCA58EY.jpeg

Truly admirable display of patience and perseverance from ^InsaneBobb here. Absolutely demolishing this draft dodger I see.

Hopefully the war is over soon and our friend here doesn’t need to fear mancatching squads that roam the streets of his village anymore.

In other news Poland / Hungary / Romania should just annex his village so he’s finally a part of EU / NATO.


haha, with false proven wrong straw man once again, from what Proximity told me you are a Russian living in EU. Maybe instead of all that energy you spend here spreading misinformation and false narratives, you could take your family and relocate back to your dear slums? Better yet volunteer and go fight for the cause you believe is so right and necessary.

This can be you anytime you wish, just a cool guy on a bike fighting for what he believes :thumbsup:


This post was edited by Fnall on Feb 2 2025 05:50am
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Wow I came into this thread as Fnall, and now I am Zelenski himself :D


I'm mildly curious of a couple things. NN for a filibuster. Keep your answer concise and specific, or simply don't answer, otherwise you're just wasting time.

When the war is done, and as appears inevitable, Russia keeps Crimea and the Donbas Republics, and Belarus keeps Chernobyl, and Ukraine remains barred from NATO membership, do you believe that any benefit will have been gained by Zelenski's refusal to allow the independent Donbas Republics to BE independent?

Keeping in mind THAT is what this war is all about, keeping in mind also that the Donbas republics have no vote nor representation in the Ukrainian Parliament, doesn't your hatred of dictators and love for democracy rather demand that how it's going to turn out is precisely how it SHOULD have turned out without the need for any invasion in the first place?
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Feb 2 2025 05:48am
This just in --> https://www.reuters.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-hold-elections-following-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-2025-02-01/

Trump aint messing around and he won't jeopardize America for Ukraine or for any country.

Start counting your days ;)

https://i.imgur.com/MZtNVZn.jpg


Just as I predicted. You need a legitimate government to hold peace talks. Zelensky doesn't represent Ukrainian population anymore. Then I predict Trump is going to go hard on Russia economically to entice peace talks. Russia isn't gonna stop invading just because he says so.
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Feb 2 2025 05:49am
I'm mildly curious of a couple things. NN for a filibuster. Keep your answer concise and specific, or simply don't answer, otherwise you're just wasting time.

When the war is done, and as appears inevitable, Russia keeps Crimea and the Donbas Republics, and Belarus keeps Chernobyl, and Ukraine remains barred from NATO membership, do you believe that any benefit will have been gained by Zelenski's refusal to allow the independent Donbas Republics to BE independent?

Keeping in mind THAT is what this war is all about, keeping in mind also that the Donbas republics have no vote nor representation in the Ukrainian Parliament, doesn't your hatred of dictators and love for democracy rather demand that how it's going to turn out is precisely how it SHOULD have turned out without the need for any invasion in the first place?


Could you expand on this highly important point? Who are you to dictate someone how they should act and how things should turn out btw?

This post was edited by Fnall on Feb 2 2025 05:49am
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Wow I came into this thread as Fnall, and now I am Zelenski himself :D




haha, with false proven wrong straw man once again, from what Proximity told me you are a Russian living in EU. Maybe instead of all that energy you spend here spreading misinformation and false narratives, you could take your family and relocate back to your dear slums? Better yet volunteer and go fight for the cause you believe is so right and necessary.

This can be you anytime you wish, just a cool guy on a bike fighting for what he believes :thumbsup:
https://i.gyazo.com/d910e0c954f2ea7604bd8ccb0e9ad715.png


Good to know I still live rent free in his head. Like many in your camp he’s often wrong and seldom in doubt. People arguing against this war in this thread on the other hand have been tempered by the most attractive trait of humanity - humility.

Instead of hating random strangers for free on the internet, a better choice for you would be to go volunteer and defend your motherland while getting paid.

This post was edited by Malopox on Feb 2 2025 06:06am
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