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Dec 31 2024 04:21pm
Your sources state it quite clearly: those folks were volunteers.

Do you seriously believe any Houthi would fight on Russia's behalf because they care so much about who controls Ukraine, or are they mercenaries incentivized by money?


Volunteers or not, we're talking about foreign nationals fighting for one of the two sides here. No excuses here.

Some people are incentivized by politics (like the Western mercenaries) and others by money.



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Dec 31 2024 04:41pm
Ukraine sent all its young men into the meat grinder and let all its young women flee to the Anglosphere just to try and fail to hold onto 13% of their territory lol


They are holding onto the majority of their territory. The SMO is the biggest military "L" since Hitler invaded the Soviet Union.
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Dec 31 2024 06:22pm
Ukraine sent all its young men into the meat grinder and let all its young women flee to the Anglosphere just to try and fail to hold onto 13% of their territory lol


So we snatched the young women while their men conveniently went to die for a lost cause - and that is somehow supposed to be a big L for the West?!?!
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Dec 31 2024 06:24pm
So we snatched the young women while their men conveniently went to die for a lost cause - and that is somehow supposed to be a big L for the West?!?!


Thousands of good white men dying is what you consider a W? Are you Jewish?
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Dec 31 2024 06:38pm
The metric for Russia victory is whether Ukraine is in Nato or not. whether Russia steals more or less land, is a by product, not the goal.
Also, honestly? In terms of Israel, the same principle applies, the metric of territorial theft is a by product, not the goal.

While the Western hawks and media spins a narrative of russian imperialism it is quite easily refuted (and multiple users have repeated refuted this, with no meaningful counter argument evidenced). This narrative simply does not hold up, as one should be able to accept by now, using simple facts and logic.

Every one goes silent whenever anyone points to the Map of Ukraine and how far Russia has gone. If Russia wanted all of Ukraine it would have fully mobilized, its as simple as that. All counter arguments fail woefully to move beyond this point.


If Russia had fully mobilized, Putin's rule (and that of his associated oligarchs) would be put in serious danger. The Russian middle class in Moscow or St. Petersburg (or the "Russian heartland", for that matter) has ZERO appetite to send their sons to war for Putin's geostrategic or neo-imperialist ambitions. Which is the very reason why they have barely drawn from this pool of potential recruits yet and instead sent the dregs from the periphery of Russian society: prisoners, criminals, Wagner mercenaries, Chechens, Dagestanis, poor peasants from the far east oblasts, and recently even from North Korea.

Regarding your first point: do you seriously want to argue that Putin would have no problem with Ukraine joining the EU as long as NATO membership was off the table? Because if that is your position, then why did Russia pull the trigger on annexing Crimea and sending ground troops to the Donbass over an association agreement between Ukraine and the EU?

Imho, Putin's/Russia's primary motivation for this war is of geostrategic nature in a broad sense; it's about protecting and maintaining Russia's sphere of influence. NATO membership is an important puzzle piece in this regard, but imho, there can be no doubt that Russia isn't exclusively driven by military considerations and also pursues economic and political goals in this conflict.
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Dec 31 2024 06:42pm
Thousands of good white men dying is what you consider a W? Are you Jewish?


I was arguing from your premise, namely that the West doesn't give a shit about Ukrainians and pursues selfish goals in this conflict. Based on this premise, what you described (an influx of hundreds of thousands of young women) is a W for the West, not an L.
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Dec 31 2024 06:45pm
Biden unveils final $2.5B security aid package for Ukraine
https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-biden-announces-his-final-2-5-billion-security-aid-package-to-ukraine-war/

Will trump continue to supply ukraine with greenbacks? Or is he gonna turn off the spigot?
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Dec 31 2024 07:10pm
I was arguing from your premise, namely that the West doesn't give a shit about Ukrainians and pursues selfish goals in this conflict. Based on this premise, what you described (an influx of hundreds of thousands of young women) is a W for the West, not an L.


The high quality immigrants are a benefit for sure, but they aren't worth what we have been paying for them, so it's still a pretty big L
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Putin truly has to be applauded, not for the military calamity that is the SMO; But for utterly pacifying a nation into indifference. That hundreds of thousands of Russians are dying to take such meagre swathes of obliterated territory.
A nation so apathetic that a few thousand km2 of the poorest nation on the continents territory is a worthwhile trade for half a million men. And not a single protest to be seen.

What a job hes done.



This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 1 2025 05:34am
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Putin truly has to be applauded, not for the military calamity that is the SMO; But for utterly pacifying a nation into indifference. That hundreds of thousands of Russians are dying to take such meagre swathes of obliterated territory.
A nation so apathetic that a few thousand km2 of the poorest nation on the continents territory is a worthwhile trade for half a million men. And not a single protest to be seen.

What a job hes done.

https://i.imgur.com/sXBzVe8.png


What matters for Russia is that Ukraine's counteroffensive failed despite hundreds of billions in aid (coming from the richest nations not the poorest) and Ukraine is now losing the war of attrition. The final goal will likely be keeping Ukraine out of NATO.

This is all completely clear, your posts and framing just show you're massively coping. And what do you think you achieve, that posting this non sense will somehow change Ukraine's fortunes on the battlefield?

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