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Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 18 2024 10:53pm)
There is a huge mistake you are making. You think the Arabic league or the neighbors care for the people of Gaza. Nope, they regard them as a tool to put pressure on Israel in the region. They'd never accept them as refugees or help them directly. The same happened with Uyghurs. Everyone and their mom knew the "East Turkestan" movement was another CIA planned color revolution to destabilize China. China went much harder on them than Israel in Gaza. No one bat an eye, not even Erdogan because they knew the motivation behind it: prevent unnecessary escalation like the Russia - Ukrainian war.
The Gazans are at Israel's full mercy. They don't even need to dirty their hands. They could've shut off the infrastructure providing Palestinians with fresh water and electricity. That 1 million population depending on it would go down really fast and relocate.


i found alot of merit in this post.
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i found alot of merit in this post.

To prevent misunderstandings:
Israel is the party who has been providing Gaza with fresh water and electricity for nothing (still going on to this day). And nope, they aren't going to do a real genocide. They're reasonable people.

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To prevent misunderstandings:
Israel is the party who has been providing Gaza with fresh water and electricity for nothing (still going on to this day). And nope, they aren't going to do a real genocide. They're reasonable people.


I know a country that provides both genocide and electricity
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Quote (Norlander @ Dec 19 2024 12:58am)
I know a country that provides both genocide and electricity


Oh, I know many.
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Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 18 2024 05:53pm)
There is a huge mistake you are making. You think the Arabic league or the neighbors care for the people of Gaza. Nope, they regard them as a tool to put pressure on Israel in the region. They'd never accept them as refugees or help them directly.


I don't disagree with this, but the point that I'm making is that if the Israelis went balls-to-the-wall and genocided/killed all the Gazans, it would assuredly be the rallying cry for Islam to unify under the common goal of eradicating Israel, and this is why Israel wont overtly do it.

I agree that the Gazans are at the mercy of the Israelis, and Israel is NOT currently genociding them, but they are trying their darnest to ethnically cleanse them.

Ben Gvir threw a convention months ago where he showed a proposal for Israeli settlements in northern Gaza. The plan was always to completely destroy Gazan infrastructure (completed) and push the Gazans into Egypt, the West Bank, or Europe (ongoing).
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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 19 2024 01:34am)
I don't disagree with this, but the point that I'm making is that if the Israelis went balls-to-the-wall and genocided/killed all the Gazans, it would assuredly be the rallying cry for Islam to unify under the common goal of eradicating Israel, and this is why Israel wont overtly do it.

I agree that the Gazans are at the mercy of the Israelis, and Israel is NOT currently genociding them, but they are trying their darnest to ethnically cleanse them.

Ben Gvir threw a convention months ago where he showed a proposal for Israeli settlements in northern Gaza. The plan was always to completely destroy Gazan infrastructure (completed) and push the Gazans into Egypt, the West Bank, or Europe (ongoing).

Plans are plans only. Europe won't accept, Egypt is extremly xenophobic towards Gazans, West bank is overpopulated. You'd make them Gaza 2.0 by injecting 1 million Gazans there, no problem solved.
They have to do what China did with Uygurs but softer version. That encompasses taking complete control of Gaza and reeducating/remaking it as a functioning state. Plus point would be that they could get their immigrants next door in the future.
Time showed again and again, you can't get a permanent peace settlement with a party bent on wiping you from the surface of the planet with no inch of movement to look for a consensus.

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I dont have the energy to respond to some of this, as its all old ground already covered. The facts remain that the US is ensuring no peace in Ukraine while funding an extermination in Israel. people are entitled to their own views and these are mine.

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Plans are plans only. Europe won't accept, Egypt is extremly xenophobic towards Gazans, West bank is overpopulated. You'd make them Gaza 2.0 by injecting 1 million Gazans there, no problem solved.
They have to do what China did with Uygurs but softer version. That encompasses taking complete control of Gaza and reeducating/remaking it as a functioning state. Plus point would be that they could get their immigrants next door in the future.
Time showed again and again, you can't get a permanent peace settlement with a party bent on wiping you from the surface of the planet with no inch of movement to look for a consensus.


over the last 7 years Israel has been evicting people out of the west bank (into gaza). the plan was to move the ppl of gaza to Sinai. putting ppl in gaza into the west bank is failing to understand what exactly israel is doing. they are moving ppl out of the westbank. the various evidence is freely available online and does not take alot of effort to locate.



Georgia should do what China did, get rid of all those NGO's that brainwashed their people to go on a mad adventure (Ukraine 2.0). I am sorry but I am just fed up with all this shit. The US is literally destroying ukraine and georgia nevermind what it does in the middle east.

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Plans are plans only. Europe won't accept, Egypt is extremly xenophobic towards Gazans, West bank is overpopulated. You'd make them Gaza 2.0 by injecting 1 million Gazans there, no problem solved.
They have to do what China did with Uygurs but softer version. That encompasses taking complete control of Gaza and reeducating/remaking it as a functioning state. Plus point would be that they could get their immigrants next door in the future.
Time showed again and again, you can't get a permanent peace settlement with a party bent on wiping you from the surface of the planet with no inch of movement to look for a consensus.


No. You kill every jihadist and their entire family. Jihadists raise jihadists. Wives of jihadists support their husband's jihad. This is a 1400 year old tried and true pattern.

Kill the jihadists, and their families. The 10% of the Gazan population that is left after the dust settles? Will be BEGGING to work with Israel. As it stands right now? The 10% of sane people in Gaza are terrified to show any support for Israel whatsoever. Don't blame them. Would you like to be burned alive, crucified, watch your family raped to death then paraded through the streets before you suffer your fate?

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No. You kill every jihadist and their entire family. Jihadists raise jihadists. Wives of jihadists support their husband's jihad. This is a 1400 year old tried and true pattern.

Kill the jihadists, and their families. The 10% of the Gazan population that is left after the dust settles? Will be BEGGING to work with Israel. As it stands right now? The 10% of sane people in Gaza are terrified to show any support for Israel whatsoever. Don't blame them. Would you like to be burned alive, crucified, watch your family raped to death then paraded through the streets before you suffer your fate?


How do you call it? Kosher decimation? :)
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How do you call it? Kosher decimation? :)


No. I call it reality. The Crusades were launched when the Jihadists had conquered half of Southern Europe, including SPAIN. These fuckers never stop, never surrender, never back off. They will kill every single infidel, or convert them at swordpoint, unless they are killed first. It's not a "concept" to Israel. Israel is surrounded by these crazy followers of Holy War philosophy. Time to kill them, Israel. If you can't be man enough to do what needs done? Just fall on your own sword. Because in the end, your own sword or the knife, bomb, drone, or AK round of a Jihadist, it'll amount to the same exact thing.
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