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Nov 17 2024 05:18am
Allegedly, Russia fired off one of the biggedt missle attacks of the SMO, mainly targeting energy infrastructure.



-X-101/55 cruise missiles launched by Tu-
95ms from the Saratov region of the Republic of
North and the Caspian region;
- cruise missiles Zm14 complex <Caliber >
launched from the Black Sea;
- H-59/69 / 31P cruise guided air missiles from
the Azov and Black Sea;
- X-22 cruise supersonic missiles with 4 Tu-
22m3 sides of the Black Sea rf;
- ballistic missiles 9m723 OTRK &lskander-M>/
KN-23;
- ballistic anti-aircraft guided missiles of 5B55/
48N6DM complexes S-300 / S-400 from the
territory of Crimea and the Belgorod region;
aeroballistic supersonic missiles of the X-
47m2 complex <Kindzhdal,>;
- hypersonic cruise missiles of the 3m22
complex #Zircon > from Crimea;
UAV types <Shahed-Geran <Herbera and
simulation purposes;
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Nov 17 2024 09:07am
Quote (Norlander @ 11 Nov 2024 14:12)
Bad peace is better than a good war


If a "bad peace" means you become a slave, its not better than war.
Jewish people during WW2 were trying to make a peaceful living, peacefully working for nazi in various concentration camps.
Nearly all died anyway.
Not only they helped nazi, but lost their lifes also.
That was a total failure.
Im all in for peace between Ukraine and Russia, but Ukrainians need a permanent peace, not a caese fire. Caese fire benefits Russia more, as it gives Russia time to rebuild their army.
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Nov 17 2024 09:51am
Quote (ferdia @ 17 Nov 2024 11:08)
1. This might come as a shock to you but Nato has been spreading over a number of decades, what, you think Putin just woke up after 20 years and said, hey lets go invade ukraine and take over the world, you are so gullible you believe that ? believe there was no causal event that led to the invasion ? that is mental gymnastics, to use a term you like.

Here is an image that may help you.

https://i.imgur.com/xCZboEY.png

2. Dehumanizing your opponents with such expressions as "morder" "commies" as well as the usual "orc's" "less then human" "animals" and "hamapalestinians" are typical tropes in western media. This idea of dividing the world into goodies and baddies is a very simplistic world view. So is not picking up the phone and trying to understand motives/goals etc. and yet thats exactly what the biden government did, with Russia, with China with Syria.

there are multiple users in these sub forums that come out with language like this, or with expressions "rape your wife" it is so immature of thought, its sad.


Its simple, Russia is expanding since like 500 years.
Its their way, building an empire by enslaving free nations and free people.
Some of Russians tried another way in the 90s, and we kept our fingers crossed, but it didnt work and now they do conquests again.
Russians do terrible things in Ukraine, and Putin is a war criminal.
Its immature not to notice any of it.
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Nov 17 2024 10:43am
I wonder, will we ever actually learn what the damage from these heavy bombardments actually was?
Some time after the war has ended, will there be any accounting or unveiled reports that lay out the actual scope of cost in lives, equipment and structures?

The only insight we get is ukrainians posting their own cell phone footage of missiles striking targets on social media. And that's how we see stuff like this;

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Nov 17 2024 10:49am
Quote (Goomshill @ 17 Nov 2024 17:43)
I wonder, will we ever actually learn what the damage from these heavy bombardments actually was?
Some time after the war has ended, will there be any accounting or unveiled reports that lay out the actual scope of cost in lives, equipment and structures?

The only insight we get is ukrainians posting their own cell phone footage of missiles striking targets on social media. And that's how we see stuff like this;

https://files.catbox.moe/n89a66.mp4


Putins propaganda, all missiles - including hypersonic and ballistic were intercepted as per ZSU.

/s

Also in other news, major narrative change across MSM, hopefully this signals that the end is in sight:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/opinion/trump-ukraine-russia-war.html

https://www.politico.eu/article/west-us-nato-promises-to-ukraine-were-never-going-to-be-kept-donald-trump-russia-war/

They might even start writing about Ukranian far right again.

This post was edited by Malopox on Nov 17 2024 10:50am
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Nov 17 2024 10:50am
Quote (Ironfister @ 17 Nov 2024 18:07)
If a "bad peace" means you become a slave, its not better than war.
Jewish people during WW2 were trying to make a peaceful living, peacefully working for nazi in various concentration camps.
Nearly all died anyway.
Not only they helped nazi, but lost their lifes also.
That was a total failure.
Im all in for peace between Ukraine and Russia, but Ukrainians need a permanent peace, not a caese fire. Caese fire benefits Russia more, as it gives Russia time to rebuild their army.


Do you think that a country that is fully dependent on foreign support benefits less from the cease fire? It's just absurd.
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Nov 17 2024 10:54am
Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 17 2024 03:51pm)
Its simple, Russia is expanding since like 500 years.
Its their way, building an empire by enslaving free nations and free people.
Some of Russians tried another way in the 90s, and we kept our fingers crossed, but it didnt work and now they do conquests again.
Russians do terrible things in Ukraine, and Putin is a war criminal.
Its immature not to notice any of it.


sure, why dont you show me a map of russian expansion over the last 20 years.
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Nov 17 2024 11:32am
Quote (nuvo @ Nov 17 2024 01:32am)
And why didn't commies sanction USA? Why its not americans (I am not one of them btw) swim on rafts to Cuba, but its other way around?

But alas, NATO is a defensive structure that only exists because russia thinks its okay to attack neighbours. But good job, at least we have new members now, warm welcome for Finland and Sweden =) all thanks to nazi ruzzia


Lmao

Imagine thinking like this

Decades of mindslop
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Nov 17 2024 11:43am
Quote (El1te @ Nov 17 2024 05:32pm)
Lmao

Imagine thinking like this

Decades of mindslop


see how he put "nazi" in there, its the same old routine from a western culture that is so arrogant to believe that anything that does not conform is not human.
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Nov 17 2024 12:10pm
Quote (ferdia @ 17 Nov 2024 17:54)
sure, why dont you show me a map of russian expansion over the last 20 years.


Georgia 2008
1st attack on Ukraine in 2014
2nd attack on Ukraine in 2022
Slowly taking over Belarus, including faking elections
Russian troops presence in Moldovia and buying votes
Cyberattacks and terrorist attacks over Europe
Throwing illegal immigrants across the EU border to destabilize EU
Trying to influence european and USA politics

But its not really about past 20 years but a much longer.
Putin is KGB agent, trained in 1970s, Russians have been imperialistic for centuries, with a small pause around the 1990s

This post was edited by Ironfister on Nov 17 2024 12:11pm
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