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Jul 20 2022 03:12pm
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2 Timothy 3:7
“Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
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In order for organisms to "evolve", mutations (accidents) would have to be able to design and build power generators, cams, gears, flywheels, input and output shafts, assembly lines, job superintendents, quality control inspectors, maintenance and repair protocols, materiel recycling stations, communication infrastructure, delivery vans, and couriers, all of which are present by the thousands in organic cells. Is there anything in the human experience to suggest that accidents can do that??


If you believe Evolution happens by accident you simply havent understood it at all (which is no surprise).
Let me explain it as simple as possible:
Evolution equals natural selection. Its never an accident, its survival of the fittest.
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Jul 20 2022 03:32pm
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If you believe Evolution happens by accident you simply havent understood it at all (which is no surprise).
Let me explain it as simple as possible:
Evolution equals natural selection. Its never an accident, its survival of the fittest.


your talking about "micro" evolution. the recombination of information that already exists, not even close to solving the mystery of abiogeneses and "macro" evolution.

or, not survival of the fittest but arrival of the fittest

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Jul 21 2022 03:46am
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your talking about "micro" evolution. the recombination of information that already exists, not even close to solving the mystery of abiogeneses and "macro" evolution.

or, not survival of the fittest but arrival of the fittest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnWdlmHzI9g


Its interesting how much issues you have when it comes to evolution and the data science has obtained throughout the years but on the other hand a book is enough to make god and magic real.

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Its interesting how much issues you have when it comes to evolution and the data science has obtained throughout the years but on the other hand a book is enough to make god and magic real.

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creationists have a intellect behind it all. abiogenesis is one hel of a magic trick and that means your the one believes in magic. .................your a woowoo person :)
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Jul 21 2022 02:53pm
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creationists have a intellect behind it all. abiogenesis is one hel of a magic trick and that means your the one believes in magic. .................your a woowoo person :)


You think its maguc because you dont understand it. Thats all.
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Jul 21 2022 03:04pm
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You think its maguc because you dont understand it. Thats all.


your saying you understand abiogenesis and "macro" evolution?
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Jul 21 2022 05:33pm
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creationists have a intellect behind it all. abiogenesis is one hel of a magic trick and that means your the one believes in magic. .................your a woowoo person :)


So where is your god? Can i measure him? Can you measure it?

Evolution has nothing to do with magic dummy. It's a theory based on evidence.

Your god is based on a book.

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Jul 21 2022 05:37pm
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your saying you understand abiogenesis and "macro" evolution?


Abiogenesis may not be fully explained today, but there are certain theories out there that make a lot more sense than "magic".

And "Macro"evolution is nonsense anyways. A nonsensical term created by people without the ability to understand evolution.
Creationists have a serious problem with time scales and thats the problem. You do not understand that evolution is a long and absolutely seamless transition.

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So where is your god? Can i measure him? Can you measure it?

Evolution has nothing to do with magic dummy. It's a theory based on evidence.

Your god is based on a book.

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hahaha you mean with a tape measure?

hahahahah based on evidence hhahahaha you dont know chit bout your on beliefs. evolution "macro" is an imaginary deep time story dreamed up over 150 years ago and lacks all the things necessary to call it science. testable observeable repeatable. hahaha what a bunch of clowns

based on testing and understanding the words of the book. it only starts with the book. ya ya atheists cant read.....

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Abiogenesis may not be fully explained today, but there are certain theories out there that make a lot more sense than "magic".

And "Macro"evolution is nonsense anyways. A nonsensical term created by people without the ability to understand evolution.
Creationists have a serious problem with time scales and thats the problem. You do not understand that evolution is a long and absolutely seamless transition.


well thats good, you said no. have you heard about the RNA world hypothesis? it was retracted some time ago, did you hear about that? probably not.
alternative to the atheist magic version is christians have an intellect behind it all.

ah? "macro" is nonsense, lets hear more than assertion. O? so now you do claim to understand evolution? you have the explanation how a completely random process produces viable coherent information?

"absolutely seamless transition" ? you believe that? stephan j gould says excerpt:
"Paleontologists have paid an exorbitant price for Darwin's argument. We fancy ourselves as the only true students of life's history, yet to preserve our favored account of evolution by natural selection we view our data as so bad that we never see the very process we profess to study. "

dawkins is still alive if you view that vid posted above #52. you should get busy and start schooling him
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Jul 22 2022 03:42am
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hahaha you mean with a tape measure?

hahahahah based on evidence hhahahaha you dont know chit bout your on beliefs. evolution "macro" is an imaginary deep time story dreamed up over 150 years ago and lacks all the things necessary to call it science. testable observeable repeatable. hahaha what a bunch of clowns

based on testing and understanding the words of the book. it only starts with the book. ya ya atheists cant read.....



well thats good, you said no. have you heard about the RNA world hypothesis? it was retracted some time ago, did you hear about that? probably not.
alternative to the atheist magic version is christians have an intellect behind it all.

ah? "macro" is nonsense, lets hear more than assertion. O? so now you do claim to understand evolution? you have the explanation how a completely random process produces viable coherent information?

"absolutely seamless transition" ? you believe that? stephan j gould says excerpt:
"Paleontologists have paid an exorbitant price for Darwin's argument. We fancy ourselves as the only true students of life's history, yet to preserve our favored account of evolution by natural selection we view our data as so bad that we never see the very process we profess to study. "

dawkins is still alive if you view that vid posted above #52. you should get busy and start schooling him


"Christian have an intellect behind it"

Yeah, dude, Christians always have "an intellect" (which is god I assume) behind everything because they cannot accept that not everything can be known at once. God explains everything right?

You cant explain it, so it must be good. Thats basically your argument. Thats why religions can't evolve themselves. Because their believe has already explained everything.
If religion would still rule the world, the earth would still be flat, we would still get water from wells and would burn red haired women.

Yes I believe evolution is a seamless transition. All the data points to that conclusion and it is also easily explainable. And again, its not a random process it is totally logical.

Tell me what it is specifically that you dont understand and we can talk about it.
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