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Oct 18 2024 04:48pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 19 2024 12:34am)
Science proves nothing. The scientific method is based upon the disproving of hypotheses.

Nothing is proven - things are only disproven. That's how true science advances.

Atheism has already been disproven by Aristotle. Later on, also disproven in a similar manner by Aquinas.


Science proves nothing? You think I care? I never talked about science. You guys keep bringing science up :wallbash:

"Dude XY has disproven atheism? What?"

You religious nutters are honestly something else :rofl:

Takes a quick 1 second google search for you to understand what the word atheism even means cause you probably have no idea what you talk about.

Here is what you type:

"definition of atheism"

All the results you get will get you anywhere near this:

"disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods"

Now tell me how Aristotle or Aquaman or whatever the dude was called debunked a disbelief. I'll wait.

This post was edited by Saurod on Oct 18 2024 04:50pm
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Quote (Saurod @ Oct 18 2024 03:48pm)
"Dude XY has disproven atheism? What?"

You religious nutters are honestly something else :rofl:

Takes a quick 1 second google search for you to understand what the word atheism even means cause you probably have no idea what you talk about.

Here is what you type:

"definition of atheism"

All the results you get will get you anywhere near this:

"disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods"

Now tell me how Aristotle or Aquaman or whatever the dude was called debunked a disbelief. I'll wait.


Prime mover.. this is basic stuff, educate yourself
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Quote (El1te @ Oct 19 2024 12:49am)
Prime mover.. this is basic stuff, educate yourself


And because this old fart talked about a "prime mover" his story is magically true or what? Hahaha :lol:

To take it at least a little serious (which is hard to do with Aristotles nonsensical gibberish):

Either things need causes or they don’t. If they do, then the “first cause” needs a cause before that, and so on back forever. If things don’t need causes, if there can be something uncaused, then we don’t need a god to cause things; the universe itself could be uncaused. So, either way, the argument fails.

Its all totally pulled out of his greek ass.

Also, Aristotle's claimed that his Prime Mover is only aware of itself, yet at the same time he contradicts himself in arguing that it somehow must cause physical change to happen so the causal relationship between the Prime Mover and the universe is not very clear.
It would btw. also mean no interaction, no prayer, no religous experience etc.

How would something that is immaterial act on something material anyways?

This post was edited by Saurod on Oct 18 2024 05:11pm
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Quote (Saurod @ Oct 18 2024 12:22pm)
What do you mean "they"? I am not them. I dont care about disproving an unproven claim. Thats beyond stupid, dude.

If you wanna tell me there is something like a god, then prove it. If you claim something, you have to prove to me that its plausible or I laugh it off and ignore it.

Thats why I laugh at religion, because its just baseless claims and wishful thinking. Its just ridiculous.


you are "them" it cant be proved to you. you are just a study of endless excuses. a good exhibit for this thread. matters not that your a non-science guy just proves 'atheist chit science
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Oct 19 2024 01:39am
Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 19 2024 02:03am)
you are "them" it cant be proved to you. you are just a study of endless excuses. a good exhibit for this thread. matters not that your a non-science guy just proves 'atheist chit science


Atheist shit science? You think theist science is any better? :lol: And I am them. I am not part of any group, I am just me. And I dont buy your claims. Thats about it.
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Quote (Saurod @ Oct 19 2024 12:39am)
Atheist shit science? You think theist science is any better? :lol: And I am them. I am not part of any group, I am just me. And I dont buy your claims. Thats about it.


yes theist science is much better. what really suks bout atheist chit science is they claim to be such magnificent science people then they put out scams. well except for you right your not a science guy. science = knowledge and your not any part of that, right?
we already know "you dont buy claims" and we know why. 'atheists are really really good at excuses.
o? respond to this and we can start looking at 'atheist fraud. ya know got to keep it on topic ;)
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Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 19 2024 12:05pm)
yes theist science is much better. what really suks bout atheist chit science is they claim to be such magnificent science people then they put out scams. well except for you right your not a science guy. science = knowledge and your not any part of that, right?
we already know "you dont buy claims" and we know why. 'atheists are really really good at excuses.
o? respond to this and we can start looking at 'atheist fraud. ya know got to keep it on topic ;)


I dont know who claims to be a significant scientist, but I dont and never have and I dont identify myself with other people, so that point is completely invalid for me.
Everybody is a science affine guy in a way, I am just no a scientist or atheist scientist, whatever that may be.
You obviously dont underatand that being a scientist means having a profession in science which I dont have. So I am not a scientist, its simple.

Also, atheism, antitheism, theism, agnosticism, mixtures, whatever, they all have nothing to do with science. Absolutely nothing.
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Quote (Saurod @ Oct 19 2024 03:29am)
I dont know who claims to be a significant scientist, but I dont and never have and I dont identify myself with other people, so that point is completely invalid for me.
Everybody is a science affine guy in a way, I am just no a scientist or atheist scientist, whatever that may be.
You obviously dont underatand that being a scientist means having a profession in science which I dont have. So I am not a scientist, its simple.

Also, atheism, antitheism, theism, agnosticism, mixtures, whatever, they all have nothing to do with science. Absolutely nothing.


one can only imagine the hubris one has to call themselves a 'athiest
the word science simply means knowledge and you dont do none of that science stuff, right?
thanks for stopping by and representing the topic of the thread.
now that you responded with more excuses i did say we would look at my collection of 'atheist fraud that been committed for over a century. its been pretty impressive how 'atheists undermine the scientific institution.

the dawn of 'atheism as a contending power brings the blight to the scientific institution.
i contend 'atheism brought nothing but misery to mankind and has set back the institution of science 100 years.
before i reveal the collection of atheist fraud i will start the series with data that shows the misery first. time to own your legacy mr saurod
Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered
Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered
Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered
Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered
Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered
Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered
Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered
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'atheist scientist just straight up being a liar.


This post was edited by TiStuff on Oct 19 2024 09:29pm
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one can only imagine the hubris one has to call themselves a 'athiest
the word science simply means knowledge and you dont do none of that science stuff, right?
thanks for stopping by and representing the topic of the thread.
now that you responded with more excuses i did say we would look at my collection of 'atheist fraud that been committed for over a century. its been pretty impressive how 'atheists undermine the scientific institution.

the dawn of 'atheism as a contending power brings the blight to the scientific institution.
i contend 'atheism brought nothing but misery to mankind and has set back the institution of science 100 years.
before i reveal the collection of atheist fraud i will start the series with data that shows the misery first. time to own your legacy mr saurod
Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered
Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered
Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered
Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered
Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered
Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered
Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered


Its funny how your thinking only contains of black and white.Typical religious idiocracy. Saying I dont know "any science" after I said I am not a scientist is nothing short of pathetic.
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