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Dec 9 2022 08:37pm
Quote (Snyft2 @ Dec 9 2022 05:19pm)
well you did mention it as a theory, which is why i assumed you thought it was a working theory :unsure: sorry about that, my bad :wacko:

as for the other things, yeah it can kinda be tested :blush: ! im not gonna bother much explaining everything to you because you do seem a bit...disagreeable with the entire idea, but i can try to tell you what i think ur doing wrong and what has/can be tested :unsure: !

so what you are doing wrong: you think atheism is more logical. its not. the reason atheism superficially sounds like a reasonable theory is because the idea of a god sounds counterintuitive to many people. and i mean it really does! on the other hand, no god does sound way more intuitive. but you see, in science you cant just say a theory is shit, you need to give a better one. you cant just say "god doesnt exist" and leave the room, oh noo. due to the fine tuning argument you need to actually give a working theory that competes, and the only working one is multiverse theory. now that one doesnt sound intuitive at all, and you as an atheist believe in it with zero proof. multiverse theory is your religion one might say!

about the evidence we have so far: multiple universe theory has no evidence. and no, schrodingers cat is no evidence. if someone tells you schodingers cat is proof of multiverse theory, what you should do is tell him to stop watching kurzgesagt/arvin ash/whatever bullshit, bill gates funded, pseudoscience youtube channel hes watching and lower the soy intake :mellow: also its not a "prediction of inflation theory", ive heard that one as well. on the other hand, creator theory has some evidence. nde appearance is highly statistically relevant evidence, although anecdotal one. there is really no evolutionary explanation for it, and if you want, i can explain why in detail. the only possibility is that everyone with ndes lied, as there are lies that "chain" so to say. still, its some evidence. other evidence is that thought can affect quantum interactions, as you can see in the works of dean radin and a few others. again, if needed, i can explain why his data is scientifically extremely valuable and unlikely to be fake. also its falsifiable so theres that

as for the testing you can do yourself, prayer is a testable thing, although that one you have to do yourself. "science" has a hard agenda against religion (for which, again, i can explain the reasons behind if needed), so peer reviewed studies are useless. but its easy to test and i encourage you to try it :blush:


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Summing up: your proof is to pray? Ye i didnt expect much and yet im disappointed :thumbsup:


YOUR proof would be to pray, if you really dont trust the current evidence and wanna test the whole thing :mellow: general evidence is near death experiences and mind quantum influence, which are both explained badly by current theories but are hard to test for the average joe

if you want to learn while staying in your precious "science" circle, i advise you check out the work of dean radin. you seem intent on only seeing one side but this is an actual scientist so you might find him easy to follow (although he IS often interviewed by a lot of new age wackos so you might wanna avoid those)

Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 10 2022 03:37am)
lol trying to reason with a ear wiggler. :)

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YOUR proof would be to pray, if you really dont trust the current evidence and wanna test the whole thing :mellow: general evidence is near death experiences and mind quantum influence, which are both explained badly by current theories but are hard to test for the average joe

if you want to learn while staying in your precious "science" circle, i advise you check out the work of dean radin. you seem intent on only seeing one side but this is an actual scientist so you might find him easy to follow (although he IS often interviewed by a lot of new age wackos so you might wanna avoid those)



what can i say, i like to help people learn ^_^ !


Current evidence? What is current evidence? There is no evidence lol
And go pray or hope for a near death existence is even dumber.

Whatever. As long as your personal god makes you happy. I really dont care 🤷
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YOUR proof would be to pray, if you really dont trust the current evidence and wanna test the whole thing :mellow: general evidence is near death experiences and mind quantum influence, which are both explained badly by current theories but are hard to test for the average joe

if you want to learn while staying in your precious "science" circle, i advise you check out the work of dean radin. you seem intent on only seeing one side but this is an actual scientist so you might find him easy to follow (although he IS often interviewed by a lot of new age wackos so you might wanna avoid those)



what can i say, i like to help people learn ^_^ !


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Current evidence? What is current evidence? There is no evidence lol
And go pray or hope for a near death existence is even dumber.

Whatever. As long as your personal god makes you happy. I really dont care 🤷


you sound awfully angry for someone who doesnt care :unsure: anyway, i gave you some evidence, its sad that you didnt at least try to check it out :( i never said it was conclusive, but its way more than you guys got :zzz:
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I used to be atheist

I don't like religion still


I find God in the garden


Wake up the earth is alive and needs our help that's the role as the top dawg. To supply the bottom and keep the cycle fertile.
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Wake up the earth is alive and needs our help that's the role as the top dawg. To supply the bottom and keep the cycle fertile.


i have a garden :blush: good idea to be food independent these days :cry:
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i have a garden :blush: good idea to be food independent these days :cry:


As we think we are the top of the chain

It's important to take care of the ones who make it all possible. ;]

Only physical place we have

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you sound awfully angry for someone who doesnt care :unsure: anyway, i gave you some evidence, its sad that you didnt at least try to check it out :( i never said it was conclusive, but its way more than you guys got :zzz:


Thats the problem. You call praying evidence
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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Dec 10 2022 10:04pm)
Thats the problem. You call praying evidence


if you know how to use statistics, anything can be evidence ^_^

if need help with it, feel free to pm me!

edit: also, i called ndes and mind quantum influencing evidence as well, you might wanna try to refute those as they are way more objective :blush: also you might wanna give me something to refute from your perspective, you know, thats how this usually works :blush: !

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