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Nov 28 2022 12:58am
Which is better and why for an uber smiter
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Nov 28 2022 01:47am
Grief, there is no contest.
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Nov 28 2022 04:09am
Last Wish is not a good item.
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Nov 28 2022 10:08am
Grief ofc
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Nov 28 2022 10:25am
The 4 biggest noob trap items in the game are:
Last wish
Jewelers monarch of deflecting (jmod)
Escutas
Chains of honor (CoH)


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Nov 28 2022 04:28pm
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48695603

This should help, kudos to this guy for doing the math for us.
However LW is ok if you want to be extra safe (additional life tap, fade if you are too lazy to have treachery) but is fking expensive. Grief is just ok, cheap. I had LW when I played d2lod long time ago. Didn't make a huge diff as it was for ubers and it was cheap on nld.
Anyway... read the guide

PS - You asked why, only I actually helped to answer that? I hate when people are just saying something without further justification. Do they understand how hidden grief dmg works for example? Idk if blizzard somehow changed it in D2R. But worth explaining things and not jsut saying: grief ftw, lw for nabs ...

This post was edited by CantTouchThis on Nov 28 2022 04:32pm
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Nov 28 2022 05:24pm
You'll be fine using either one, however Grief is cheaper to make / buy & does a lot more damage than a LW.

LW is more expensive, does less damage, however offers the benefit of tap, fade & 70% CB. However, tap you can get from dracs or Exile, fade from treachery & 60% CB from Gface + Gobins.
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