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Nov 11 2021 06:12pm
New to ss druids, overall. For a SSvA dueling in pubs/ and PvM mix, would sage > HoW? And if so is much dex req?

I’m planning to mainly use eth tomb reaver throughout all this aswell. Cheers Ink
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Nov 11 2021 06:27pm
Quote (ParagonAX @ Nov 11 2021 05:13pm)
What r the dps/bp consuderations for other botd options like great thresher, great poleaxe, war pike etc?


Gt botd = 4/4/4/4/6 with no ias offhabd
4/4/4/4/5 with 49 ias offhand
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Nov 12 2021 06:36am
Quote (tcpgeest @ Nov 9 2021 09:47am)
With 90 IAS eTomb and 80% gear IAS you can hit 3 frames. Which I didn’t see as possible but with the 60 IAS armor it makes more sense to go eTomb.

With my specific eTomb and Archon Staff (332% and 397%). My eTomb at 3 frames is doing 500 more DPS before all other multipliers (click back a few pages for my DPS calculations). I also can unsocket my eTomb and get better jewels and hit potentially 354% ED. Making it really no contest.

I even did some math assuming a 4/4/4/4/6 eBotD Archon and 4/4/4/4/5 as well and they still both lag behind my current eTomb setup.

If you add a Faith merc to this and hit 3/3/3/3/4 it becomes an ever bigger gap.

I guess eTomb is still king for PvM.


With the 60 IAS armor + laying on hands, we don't need highlords right? We can then use atma's scarab instead for amplify damage. We lose out on deadly strike but we're able to kill phys immunes. I dunno if that's really worth it tho.
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Nov 12 2021 06:43am
Quote (pat777b @ Nov 12 2021 04:36pm)
With the 60 IAS armor + laying on hands, we don't need highlords right? We can then use atma's scarab instead for amplify damage. We lose out on deadly strike but we're able to kill phys immunes. I dunno if that's really worth it tho.



Not worth it. DS is a huge multiplier.
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Quote (pat777b @ Nov 12 2021 01:36pm)
With the 60 IAS armor + laying on hands, we don't need highlords right? We can then use atma's scarab instead for amplify damage. We lose out on deadly strike but we're able to kill phys immunes. I dunno if that's really worth it tho.


Only deadly strike u have is:
35 highlord
15 gores
(maby 15 Guilaume)

So not using hl ur left with very low deadly strike.

If it stays active, maby some 40ias/2soc/4xx ed/eth/self rep/5ctc amp giant tresher comes on the realm.

I uses such at asgard.
With 70 ias it slayed. +4 range adder!

So effective that i did not even use rabies there like on eu nl.

540ed/70ias/250ar/self rep/eth/5ctc amp
15 off wep ias and ur at 3/3/3/3/5 frames.

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Nov 12 2021 07:05am
Quote (gel87 @ Nov 12 2021 06:55am)
Only deadly strike u have is:
35 highlord
15 gores
(maby 15 Guilaume)

So not using hl ur left with very low deadly strike.

If it stays active, maby some 40ias/2soc/4xx ed/eth/self rep/5ctc amp giant tresher comes on the realm.

I uses such at asgard.
With 70 ias it slayed. +4 range adder!

So effective that i did not even use rabies there like on eu nl.

540ed/70ias/250ar/self rep/eth/5ctc amp
15 off wep ias and ur at 3/3/3/3/5 frames.


Oh god, I love this set up the most now.
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Nov 12 2021 07:18am
Quote (pat777b @ Nov 12 2021 02:05pm)
Oh god, I love this set up the most now.


Valk 08 cham
Wiz gloves
Highlord 08
Bug belt
Upped gores
Eni of duress
10fcr/120ar/25str/15dex/20life ring
10fcr/120ar/20str/15dex/11@/90mana
Eth Giant tresher 70ias/540ed/250ar/5ctc amp/self rep
Eth Giant tresher 70ias/540ed/250ar/5ctc amp/self rep

20/20 torch
20/20 annie
Cube: demon limb/cta/maras
8 shape 45 life
9 x 5frw/20ar/3max

Full str bug, 180frw/100fcr/+4range adder/4-4-4-4-5 frames/ctc amp/2 x same wep for inzane wsg strike.

This wolf slayed at asgard. People tried to flee, but they had no idea when i was in range or was jumping them or whatever. Necroes and such really had no chance lol, they even prisoned a lot xD and vs smiters i could wsg strike them and win plenty of duels, as i hit them mid charge/when they tried to smite with the epic range adder. People are also not used to +4 range adder. Its always a suprice for them xD

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 12 2021 07:18am
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Nov 12 2021 08:10am
Did some ubers and 3frame shael+shael+zodded etomb with Guillaumes helm felt alot better than good old ribcracker.
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Nov 12 2021 11:26am
Do these new breakpoint shift the meta at all for melee classes? Or is this a minor improvement?
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Nov 12 2021 04:21pm
Quote (gel87 @ Nov 12 2021 08:18am)
Valk 08 cham
Wiz gloves
Highlord 08
Bug belt
Upped gores
Eni of duress
10fcr/120ar/25str/15dex/20life ring
10fcr/120ar/20str/15dex/11@/90mana
Eth Giant tresher 70ias/540ed/250ar/5ctc amp/self rep
Eth Giant tresher 70ias/540ed/250ar/5ctc amp/self rep

20/20 torch
20/20 annie
Cube: demon limb/cta/maras
8 shape 45 life
9 x 5frw/20ar/3max

Full str bug, 180frw/100fcr/+4range adder/4-4-4-4-5 frames/ctc amp/2 x same wep for inzane wsg strike.

This wolf slayed at asgard. People tried to flee, but they had no idea when i was in range or was jumping them or whatever. Necroes and such really had no chance lol, they even prisoned a lot xD and vs smiters i could wsg strike them and win plenty of duels, as i hit them mid charge/when they tried to smite with the epic range adder. People are also not used to +4 range adder. Its always a suprice for them xD


hum both bugbelt and wizgloves on the same char? lol priv servers.
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