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Nov 9 2021 09:47am
Quote (smykster @ Nov 9 2021 03:36pm)
is this all with etomb? Did anything ever happen to the BOTD Archon staff? Also, Andy's helm with a shael/edias jewel might be a good consideration. Goldwrap is a good source as well. This is making a jeweler's of the whale armors look REALLY tasty.


With 90 IAS eTomb and 80% gear IAS you can hit 3 frames. Which I didn’t see as possible but with the 60 IAS armor it makes more sense to go eTomb.

With my specific eTomb and Archon Staff (332% and 397%). My eTomb at 3 frames is doing 500 more DPS before all other multipliers (click back a few pages for my DPS calculations). I also can unsocket my eTomb and get better jewels and hit potentially 354% ED. Making it really no contest.

I even did some math assuming a 4/4/4/4/6 eBotD Archon and 4/4/4/4/5 as well and they still both lag behind my current eTomb setup.

If you add a Faith merc to this and hit 3/3/3/3/4 it becomes an ever bigger gap.

I guess eTomb is still king for PvM.
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Quote (vertster123 @ Nov 9 2021 03:47pm)
How you gonna pick anything up with that inventory though? :unsure:


I carry the cube :)

If I did go for a Fana Merc, what gear should I use to keep it alive / help kill physical immunes? Never made an A1 merc.
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Nov 9 2021 09:50am
Phys immunes will be an annoyance without decrep. If you do make a faith, you should try ebotd out again because it can hit 5/3/3/3/3 with fana.
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Nov 9 2021 09:54am
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Phys immunes will be an annoyance without decrep. If you do make a faith, you should try ebotd out again because it can hit 5/3/3/3/3 with fana.


Yeah question is if it is worth it to take it that far and giving up killing phys immunes. I assume the Rogue won’t have an easy time firing Cold or Fire arrows at phys immunes at p8.
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Nov 9 2021 10:02am
Quote (tcpgeest @ Nov 9 2021 09:54am)
Yeah question is if it is worth it to take it that far and giving up killing phys immunes. I assume the Rogue won’t have an easy time firing Cold or Fire arrows at phys immunes at p8.


Right, I think overall your current setup is pretty optimal. Though, for me personally, I wouldn't be comfortable running around p8 chaos with 0% damage reduction.
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Nov 9 2021 11:24am
Quote (vertster123 @ Nov 9 2021 05:02pm)
Right, I think overall your current setup is pretty optimal. Though, for me personally, I wouldn't be comfortable running around p8 chaos with 0% damage reduction.



3.2k life is a lot. I suppose if you don’t play aggressively it can feel a bit glassy but I am basically steamrolling ahead and leech makes sure my health never drops below 95%. I did run into physical immune Grand Vizier and with all the Ghosts around I dropped to about 1/3 HP but refrained from clicking the rejuv and found some Venom Lords to leech from.

It feel stronger/faster than a Tesladin, it’s still Melee and Tesladin can run Enigma to seal pop. But if I compare it to my full clears on my 10k Blizzard sorc (who one shots everything in Chaos that isn’t immune), the Wolf is actually faster. Killing cold immunes with Firewall takes some time on a full clear and missing Blizzards also is annoying.

Both comfortably full clear around the 3-4 minute mark. Pretty awesome.
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Nov 9 2021 11:30am
Just wondering if shale'd Ribcracker could get it works ?only 70 ias.

And what is the remaining gears suggestion

This post was edited by zi464 on Nov 9 2021 11:31am
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Nov 9 2021 11:32am
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3.2k life is a lot. I suppose if you don’t play aggressively it can feel a bit glassy but I am basically steamrolling ahead and leech makes sure my health never drops below 95%. I did run into physical immune Grand Vizier and with all the Ghosts around I dropped to about 1/3 HP but refrained from clicking the rejuv and found some Venom Lords to leech from.

It feel stronger/faster than a Tesladin, it’s still Melee and Tesladin can run Enigma to seal pop. But if I compare it to my full clears on my 10k Blizzard sorc (who one shots everything in Chaos that isn’t immune), the Wolf is actually faster. Killing cold immunes with Firewall takes some time on a full clear and missing Blizzards also is annoying.

Both comfortably full clear around the 3-4 minute mark. Pretty awesome.


You might consider gface over jalals. The 15% ds alone provides more damage than the +4 shape skills from jalals. The 35%cb is nice too.

You can leech from all monsters in chaos btw (provided they aren't the uniques with stoneskin phys immune).

3 minute clear in p1 is standard and easy. 3 minute clear in p8 is harder.
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Nov 9 2021 11:58am
Quote (vertster123 @ Nov 9 2021 06:32pm)
You might consider gface over jalals. The 15% ds alone provides more damage than the +4 shape skills from jalals. The 35%cb is nice too.

You can leech from all monsters in chaos btw (provided they aren't the uniques with stoneskin phys immune).

3 minute clear in p1 is standard and easy. 3 minute clear in p8 is harder.



Loses +4 skills though (life/AR) and lowers my WW ias, thought it likely doesn’t matter. The stats also add a lot and I’d lose all those resistances. The only time I need CB is vs Ubers, for which I’d prebuff WW and then bring Ribcracker on switch.

Edit: this was all on p8 btw. P1 is for plebs.

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What r the dps/bp consuderations for other botd options like great thresher, great poleaxe, war pike etc?
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