Quote (ceejay3 @ Feb 20 2022 12:23pm)

They don’t allow poison skills because the play style it can enable, like hit and run as if people don’t already do that with open wounds lol. It’s lame, but it is what it is. As if we don’t have a shared stash and people could just get psn swaps

Quote (Ziecheik @ Feb 21 2022 05:23am)

yeah a lot of the anti plague rules come from d2lod where stash space was limited and no one wanted to carry mass plr gear for zons.
not to mention zvz doesnt allow plague so a lot of players protested it being used anywhere as it was seen as a cheese strat.

tbh tho, plague is borderline OP vs unprepared opponents, even without being fully maxed it will bring down most 75poison res/0plr builds to 1hp or close to with a single plague hit.

I agree with you tho, now on d2r having stashed gear vs specific classes is a lot easier, and players can be prepared vs any element if they really want. poison included.

Quote (gel87 @ Feb 21 2022 10:08am)

On eu nl d2lod it was allowed.

It also do not leave all people 1 lifed unless ur a plague build which sacrifice all to only have good plague dmg.
A bowa wielding 2/30/2 helm and 2java/20/kb gloves and 2 java sks reached like 46k plague dmg.

46000*2*0,17*0,25 = 3910

My tele 3hybrid reached 39k plague dmg, usually ran 37k.
37000*2*0,17*0,25 = 3145

This was also over 68 seconds or so after plr affect.

And now the dmg is fixed at 3 seconds. So i guess it will be pretty low. 6 seconds after plr effect. It has 14% synergi instead of 10%. So all in all its nerfed i would say. Just another added element.

Quote (Pimpslapper @ Feb 21 2022 10:48am)

PLR doesn’t double the poison length like you calculated it reduces it. Even if they drastically reduce the overall damage post 2.4 it will do it’s full dmg in 3 seconds. How do you see a nerf in that? I can’t imagine any scenario where that is not a buff

Quote (gel87 @ Feb 21 2022 01:41pm)

In hell you have -100 plr if you dont have any plr equip. So it double its duration.

Quote (Pimpslapper @ Feb 21 2022 02:44pm)

Got it thanks!
Still don’t see the nerf!

Quote (gel87 @ Feb 21 2022 04:37pm)

Im gonna take example of my tele 3hybrid who with 8 skillers due to cube, and 16plague + 6 psn jav base skills and +16 amazon/all and 12 to java skills.

37218 psn damage over 20,2 seconds.

Thats a dps of:
tel:37218%20/%2020,237218 / 20,2[/URL] = 1842

Now lets rescale that dps with a 3second duration.
1842 * 3 = 5527 psn over 3 seconds.

However we would need to use the 14% syntenergie.

23261 prior to syntenergies.
23261 * (1+(6*14/100)) = 42800 over 20,2 seconds
tel:42800%20/%2020,242800 / 20,2[/URL] = 2118

2118 * 3 * 6356 over 3 seconds

Ofc a different build utulize more hard skilled syntenergies would benefit more from the now 14% add.

Quote (Pimpslapper @ Feb 21 2022 05:43pm)

It would be retarded to calculate it like that if they did.
It should be total damage (whatever that is)/ three seconds not the current dps per second calculated at current duration with some synergies added and scaled back to three seconds. WTF?

Quote (gel87 @ Feb 21 2022 12:27pm)

I dont think they will buff it that much.. Dealing like 40k or Even 50k or more in 3 seconds would be to good...

Quote (gel87 @ Feb 21 2022 04:08am)

On eu nl d2lod it was allowed.

It also do not leave all people 1 lifed unless ur a plague build which sacrifice all to only have good plague dmg.
A bowa wielding 2/30/2 helm and 2java/20/kb gloves and 2 java sks reached like 46k plague dmg.

46000*2*0,17*0,25 = 3910

My tele 3hybrid reached 39k plague dmg, usually ran 37k.
37000*2*0,17*0,25 = 3145

This was also over 68 seconds or so after plr affect.

And now the dmg is fixed at 3 seconds. So i guess it will be pretty low. 6 seconds after plr effect. It has 14% synergi instead of 10%. So all in all its nerfed i would say. Just another added element.