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Nov 21 2016 12:21pm
Quote (gel87 @ 8 Nov 2016 16:13)
How would it be to have one with beast ba? In pvp, running conv aura urself? :)

And how is the damAge difference. Between dragon and dream? :)


Dragon is fun (PB ofc) to have (with Dragon armor too), but ofcourse way weaker then Grief/Death and even LW is better imo. (Tested it too)
Beast BA sucks in PVM (Only BvC's should use it, but only for the aura+ow+ar), you have to rep it like every run (wich SUCKS ass!!!) and it has WAAAAAAAAAAY lower damage then grief, Death, LW and Dragon.


Quote (rcthund4 @ 8 Nov 2016 21:57)
I have a dreamzealer thanks to this but I run a slightly different setup that works great for ubers.

Grief PB, dream shield and helm, enigma body armor, metalgrid ammy, ravenfrost ring, nature's peace, verdungo's belt, drac's, and gore riders. Off weapon set is hoto and spirit shield for +5 holy shield and lightning fast teleport cast rate because I can't afford a CTA.


It seems you have low Crushing Blow (just from gores :unsure: ) , and with that setup you wont reach the IAS breakpoint for PB (72 ias is needed with conviction). IMO Hlords are a must. I feel Death is better then Grief for ubers (50 cb rocks in ubers, and yet still good raw damage too), but if it works fine for you, I say.. keep it and dont change a thing, even tho there are better options ;)

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Enigma grief is fine builded, just want to add that pc skillers are crap, go with max dmg life GC, ar roll low for cheap price, since you dont need AR at all with conviction aura. Also imo aim 86 BP fhr, neeeds 6? Sc and dream rolls high through
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Quote (Djuntas @ 22 Nov 2016 13:31)
Enigma grief is fine builded, just want to add that pc skillers are crap, go with max dmg life GC, ar roll low for cheap price, since you dont need AR at all with conviction aura. Also imo aim 86 BP fhr, neeeds 6? Sc and dream rolls high through


Pcombat skillers are just fine. I mean.. it increases damage and ar for zeal aswell, aswell holy shield duration and defense.
I think damage wise its not so much different using pcombat skillers w/ 45 life or max/ar/lifers with 45 life too tho

About the fhr: Imo 86 isnt needed in PvM anyway. 48 is more than enough in PvM.
86 fhr maybe for PvP tho^^

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Nov 22 2016 07:20am
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Pcombat skillers are just fine. I mean.. it increases damage and ar for zeal aswell, aswell holy shield duration and defense.
I think damage wise its not so much different using pcombat skillers w/ 45 life or max/ar/lifers with 45 life too tho

About the fhr: Imo 86 isnt needed in PvM anyway. 48 is more than enough in PvM.
86 fhr maybe for PvP tho^^


Yea, PC vs GC is prolly minor, but I liked that dmg roll on them. Hard to tell I figure :) but these GC sure are cheaper to get than PC trough hehe.

I tend to go 86 FHR on all my classes, we'll...86 w/e BP they all have...Its just a thing I have I guess, and its easy enough done on this build with good dream roll's and sc's...If thoes sc's wasent say fire res + 5 fhr, it would just be like....100 more health. 5 fhr, max AR also exist. Id rather get 86 than more HP, since even on tesladin with 2.3k hp and a dual leech ring (6% LL on mine) I don't die.

Just starting to kinda reliease its pointless with all thoes big health numbers on all the builds I do.

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Quote (Djuntas @ 22 Nov 2016 16:05)
Yea, PC vs GC is prolly minor, but I liked that dmg roll on them. Hard to tell I figure :) but these GC sure are cheaper to get than PC trough hehe.

I tend to go 86 FHR on all my classes, we'll...86 w/e BP they all have...Its just a thing I have I guess, and its easy enough done on this build with good dream roll's and sc's...If thoes sc's wasent say fire res + 5 fhr, it would just be like....100 more health. 5 fhr, max AR also exist. Id rather get 86 than more HP, since even on tesladin with 2.3k hp and a dual leech ring (6% LL on mine) I don't die.

Just starting to kinda reliease its pointless with all thoes big health numbers on all the builds I do.


Again 86 fhr is a pvp thing, for pvm you wont need such fhr ever. Ofcourse u can go for 86 fhr if u want, but it isnt needed tho.(again... this guide is just to give some info and what fhr etc is needed atleast)

I should do some tests between those 2 (max/ar vs pcomb), Im sure it will be close, but again pcomb increases the HS level too.

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Nov 22 2016 09:39am
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What do you think about death BA+enigma build as Pvm and also as uberkiller?Using conviction as main aura and merc with faith bow.

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What do you think about death BA+enigma build as Pvm and also as uberkiller?Using conviction as main aura and merc with faith bow.


See post #31

Beast is:
- breakable
- low damage
Compared to: death, lwish, grief, runemaster

Eni is fine ofcourse, and ofc better for organ/key hunting (and pre ubers), but for uber trist fort is the better pick (u dont need to tele that much, so)

No pvm char should ever use beast for melee purposes (summon necs should use it tho, but thats for supporting and not melee ofc)
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See post #31

Beast is:
- breakable
- low damage
Compared to: death, lwish, grief, runemaster

NOt beast,I meant DEATH berserker axe
I am thinking of DEATH +enigma build PVM and a spare forti in stash for ubers.

And regarding the skills-is it 20 after all skills or you mean max sacrifice,salvation and resist light?

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NOt beast,I meant DEATH berserker axe
I am thinking of DEATH +enigma build PVM and a spare forti in stash for ubers.

And regarding the skills-is it 20 after all skills or you mean max sacrifice,salvation and resist light?


Ahh, death is fine, and imo the best uber wep (cb, ds, good dmg)

About eni see post #38 :p

And yes, youll max res light and sacr atleast. Id rather have salvation then zeal, bcuz zeal doesnt add that much to ur dmg, but u should skill zeal too after maxing/skillin all needed skills.

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Dec 31 2016 10:51am
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