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Mar 23 2018 06:11am
Are you sure the best weapon is lancelator?
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Mar 23 2018 06:21am
Quote (Belarathon @ Mar 23 2018 03:29am)
I want to use this build for my assassin as I attempt to Guardian all 7 characters on SP HC ^_^. I'm not sure how the progression would go up until I had all that gear you have listed though... Assassin is definitely my weakest point in D2. Hopefully I can eventually bring it up to the gear goals in this guide and make everyone proud :thumbsup:


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Mar 23 2018 01:19pm
Quote (Dizzien @ Mar 23 2018 06:11am)
Are you sure the best weapon is lancelator?


Between lacerator and lawbringer its a matter of playstyle difference. I'd say the broad strokes are that lacerator is better for killing champion/boss mobs and those clumped around them, lawbringer is better for killing spread out trash mobs.
If you're using BoS, they both hit about the same attack speed, either 7 or 8 fpa depending on BoS level, and the difference from 7-8 isn't that important here when everything dies in 1-2 hits
If you're using Fade, beast can hit 9 fpa, 8 fpa with another ias slot, while a +5/6 DT/40% ias GT with 2x facets can hit 10 fpa with just gloves, 9 fpa with another slot.
But lacerator and lawbringer are definitely the highest damage options. Most monsters have ~15-50% DR, so the multiplicative boost from -% physical resist is huge.
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Mar 23 2018 07:01pm
thanks for the guide

and im surprised its that unknown, build mustve been around for over a decade now
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Mar 23 2018 07:11pm
Thanks for sharing.
You have intrigued me much.
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Mar 24 2018 09:25am
a few things to add:

- %fire skill damage does not add damage to dtail, only -% res has an effect
- %ed (due to the already large skilled bonus) doesn't add all that much so imo bis should be a 20/20
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Mar 24 2018 02:18pm
Quote (memoism @ Mar 24 2018 09:25am)
a few things to add:

- %fire skill damage does not add damage to dtail, only -% res has an effect


https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Dragon_Tail
>+% Fire Skill Damage applies to radial fire attack damage.

I tested that in hero editor previously, its true- % fire skill damage definitely applies to dragon tail. Getting +20000% makes it go from dealing a small fraction of eldritch to killing him and his pack in 1 hit
I didn't actually test to confirm its multiplicative, I just assumed that because it wouldn't make much sense to code it otherwise, but there's always a chance its got some oddball scaling where it its additive with the skill
It does not display on the character screen, but the LCS doesn't really say anything remotely accurate about dragon tail

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- %ed (due to the already large skilled bonus) doesn't add all that much so imo bis should be a 20/20


%ed has a very small impact when you're using tiger strike but it has a very large impact when you're not
Being able to dragon tail for ~20-30k+ hp in damage without tiger strike is really the goal here for good reason, it lets you just spam dragon tail instead of being dependent on charges, which really speeds up kill speed
Its still nice to be able to get 1-3 charges to blow up a boss or champion pack in the combo OHKO, but its slower and more clumsy than just spamming tail for trash mobs.

To give you an idea, against a 15/15% resist monster with 167 strength, a {lacerator, 2020 armor, 2020 shield, 1010 3MA circlet) deals 174k damage with TS but only 19k without charges. Meanwhile a {lacerator, fort, phoenix, 1010 3MA circlet} deals 144k with TS, but 30k without
The balanced build I'd recommend, a 300 strength with {lacerator, enigma, phoenix, 1010 3MA circlet} deals 177k with charges, 29k without, sacrificing some HP to make up the damage.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 24 2018 02:18pm
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Mar 26 2018 10:08am
I've been farming p8 pits with hoto or wiz spike with phoenix. I found the Lacerator is overkill for A1 even in full game.

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You can hit 7fpa for dtail with lvl 12 BOS.
It's a pretty fun dual element hybrid. Dtail with phoenix does wonders on the archers. The kb is annoying but the stun makes it a lot safer. It's a fun and unique but not the safest for hardcore with phoenix but one can alter it as they like. However phoenix is great for no charge up dtail.
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Apr 4 2018 07:48am
Lacerator is probably overkill in players 1, but I'd still probably say lawbringer, its nice to have it against bosses and bigger uniques and stone skin immunes.
I tried a phoenix strike hybrid while playing around and it can work but its painfully slow compared to just regular old lightning sentry in higher player count games. Both are rather inconvenient for taking down immunes, taking a fair while of 'charging up' either way, but even with MA skillers and +MA gear, the regular old low level lightning sentries wind up being faster
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Apr 4 2018 01:27pm
It's actually been pretty good with a spirit pb. I can use max fade and still have max trap laying speed, max tiger strike fpa and I think 9 dtail fpa. I sacrifice max fpa dtail but its so much safer for HC. The -curse duration and Dr is great since I'm not Mb or has Ss.
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