well i managed to make a 438 MF , 10k dmg 75@ 125 fcr hammerdin with 65% block and im planning to improve the block too, but cannot find anything that is " good " to me in 1 player games... for 8p i have to change EQ for more dmg since he kills too slow...

i wonder, sry if i could not find out, but how much the lvl of my character affects the lvl of items that i find?

for example, my char is 93 ATM, will the drops get better when i make him 95 lvl ?

Character level never has anything whatsoever to do with the quality of drops. There simply is no relationship between killer level and item drop.

More players = more items, so more good and lots more bad items.
More MF = higher magical quality items, not better base items.

Great job, i have been looking for smth like this for very looong time

awesome this has answered a lot of questions. ty

This won't be stickied, Kentas doesn't do shit.

its kinda sad really, there are literally like 15 hammerdin guides and they wont sticky really helpful guides such as this

Just upgraded my hdin to have 527 mf.
Level 94
I do all act bosses.

i do see a difference, i get low amounts of uniques compared to 250 mf, BUT i get better quality.

for example, after about 15 runs with 250 mf i would get 2 raven frosts with decent stats such as +200 AR +16dex.

but now after 25 runs or so with 527, i would get one raven frost with stats of 249/20 ...

:/

anyways... my question where should i mf with 527 @ lvl 94, aiming to get griffs/coa/sojs.

This post was edited by Prone37 on Feb 3 2010 11:26pm

Short answer to this:
Sigh. There is no correlation between MF and item stats. None at all.

Long version:
The guide is clear, but I'll elaborate:

3 stage process:

1) Pick base item. This is determined by available TC which is in turn determined either by preset game TC or mlvl of the monster killed. MF is never involved.
2) Pick item quality if applicable. By quality we are refering only to the magical quality of the item, being unique, set, rare, or magic. This is the only stage in the process of picking an item that MF gets involved.
3) Pick specific item according to rarity if applicable (for example unique rings) AND assign random stats to whatever item was picked. MF has no bearing at all on this process.

MF is only ever applied to the check for magical quality, it has no bearing on base items, it has no bearing on the specific choice of item where there is more than 1 unique for example available, and it has absolutely no bearing on the assignment of the random stats.

Having said all that, you should still MF with the higher MF% if your kill speed is not impeded. This will result in more uniques, and therefore more chances to roll good ones. Your observation that you get fewer unqiues but with better stats is just what happened, not what statistically we would expect to happen, which is all you should consider.

Personally I found a perfect Arachnid Mesh with zero MF. Doesn't mean I now do my magic finding with zero MF, it just means I got lucky that day.

This post was edited by AyeCaramba on Feb 4 2010 04:30am

So if i want to find mostly rare items.
Ill need around 600MF??

And what char should i make for rares/uniques finding.
SOrc or Din?

This post was edited by 410 on Apr 18 2010 03:44pm

so how would you increase your chances of finding higher "elite" level uniques? I find unique soften in 1player meph hell but a lot of the time its like "unique small shield" or unique normal level items