Quote (gel87 @ Aug 20 2022 07:34pm)

Actually made one for fun here the other day. In a planner as i dont have much on d2r^^

The parts do not have to be this perf, but you get the idea, if fcr ring by any miracle includes high both psn and fire res u can run this low ammount of scs with res.

I'll try to explain the build:
Its a wirlwind barb with 1 hell of a throw, and lvl 1 leap as leap and stun in general is nerfed. Since stun is nerfed I did not skill war cry either.
Currently the build is setup up to play vs:
Hammerdin, Nec, Trapsin, light sorc and can easely duel fire sorc as well by just swapping boots into hots.
I would however remove javs vs trap and sorc, and make room for full bo equipment in cube.
By swapping beast with stormshield 'eld' u have just decided to have low damage at the gain of block, so you might as well ditch ur gores to use shadows and then u get 75% block.
Swap scs as needed to get more life, as you now will have 30fhr from shadows on ur way to reach 48fhr. You only need the lc and 2 scs with fhr when rocking shadows or coa or guilaume or arreats.
This setup also fits FPK nice.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/b30106f6

You can easely read the damage here, it does however not include the chance to deal double damage in its number, neither the berzerk/wirl/double throw bonuses...
Wirl will land at 4fpa each axe, aka 2 fpa wirl. (12,5 attacks per second) and can easely handle stuff like arach slow. It will end up at 5fpa vs nec like any reasonable barb build.
Meanwhile double throw lands at a total sum of 5 fpa. 63 Ias is needed for that, you have 75. Landing 4,5 fpa double throw would require 98 ias which is not viable without valk 08 on a barb made for mainly wirl and berzerk but with added strong ranged skill.

The attack rating is great here:
Wirl: 17717
Berzerk: 18781
Double throw:
Lacerator: 17259
Winged harpoon: 23062

Now, what we have not discussed yet is vs ele druid, vt/smiter, foh, cold sorc.
Duels where you want both 2 axes and DR or Light/Cold stack.

Vs cold, i did not bother to add the small charms you should. A few 20/11 or 20/5@ and ur up for stacking cold sorc.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/wa0106dk

Vs VT with high foh damage, swap some scs for more light res, and u only need the 1 lc for fhr,
we actually just run 20fcr break vs them.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/1w01062i

Vs ele druid:
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/4y0106b0

You can also run 37 or 63fcr + oak from wisp vs bowa if u want. Higher risk/higher reward.

Important breakpoints:
Fcr: 20 - 37 - 63
Fhr: 27 - 48 - 86

Again:
When u decide throw is not a relevant attack vs some enemies you put the javs in stash, then you add bo helm etc in cube instead. And you easy get 7k+ life.
The bo done on this planner is with 1 bo wep, 3wc ammu, 1 soj + normal gear....
Missing: 6 bo helm(which should be FALFAL to be able to bo with 2 sojs safe), as well as 2 bo wep instead of 1, and missing a soj xD So ur bo level can be: 8 skills higher.

If you decide to use a widowmaker instead of throws, or no ranged attack i can help with that as well. Will be very simular. Yet some easier setups for DR%.

Quote (Lvivz @ Aug 21 2022 02:49pm)

Yeah thats one heavy hitting barb if you have 800k fg to build such a barb ofc, except 99% cannot even afford javelins required for such a barb to even function properly.

Quote (gel87 @ Aug 21 2022 04:25pm)

350+ed, eth, 30 ias is minimum stats. Everything else is a bonus. Like kb. And some ar is already a part of the ed%.
In worst case scenario one can use a eth warshrike. Works as well, damage will be worse ofc but work.

But yes, barb is inzanly exspensive to build good.
The cheaper its built, the less damage etc it has. But the main issue is having both high ar and high fcr at the same time.
So any char can be built rather cheap, but some works pretty bad when on eco. They may run fine in 1v1, but once u duel 2 or more enemies at a time it costs to make it effective.

Besides, there is nothing wrong with ditching the ranged option as i wrote. It's just for fun. I prefer hybrid chars. But a bvc with wirl and zerk as attacks is very fun :)

Quote (Lvivz @ Aug 21 2022 03:28pm)

350+ed eth self rep javs with ias will still go for 20k+ on d2r

40/400 grief ba goes for 50-60k lol

Quote (gel87 @ Aug 21 2022 04:59pm)

https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/6r0106qr

Here you go, made everything cheaper. Restatted for MB again.

And the javs dont need rep....

Quote (Lvivz @ Aug 21 2022 04:24pm)

2 baba/20fcr/30frw/14 dex/2os diadem would instantly be top 3 bvc/bva diadem in d2r and go for crazy amount

This is a diadem someone who has 15-20k fg bva budget (and only like <20% of people building BVC have budget like that) would most likely be looking at
https://i.redd.it/3c73275fee151.png


Inventory of 3/15+/15+ is still super expensive and most will just go with max/ar/life gcs to save gold, forget about that 451sc which is like 4k-5k fg by itself.

Point is that after you factor avg jsper budget throw/bva/zerk barb will be sub-par and won't have a heavy hit at all

Quote (gel87 @ Aug 21 2022 05:36pm)

Well, it has unneccesary res and not 2 soc.
However put a cham in it, then you can eco more on res another place, and voila u have a cheaper version bvc/bva at the cost of life and ar.
Then get urself a random widowmaker and put a cheap shael in that.
Then put your beast in main hand and ur grief in offhand.
Now shot 2-3 arrows, then swap to beast+grief side for 25%ow+25%cb boost upon arrow impact.

And even I who have pretty much nothing on d2r has a better barb diadem....

Its the same with every1 building a fun char for 200fg back on d2lod. Then they claim my guide and build suck. Then i build it for 100-200k fg and rekt every1 with it.
It cost to make a character good. OFc there are versions who are cheaper. Im currently bulding a very cheap hybrid tele wolf. It uses forexample: 1dru/20fcr/30frw/good adds/1soc diadem. Ideally i wanted 2 soc and 2 skills etc.. But it will work and my char will be pretty strong even though i will end up with a rather low grief and eth tomb....
But fun chars and hybrid chars usually costs to make viable.

The psn sc is just an end touch, not needed at all.

Quote (Lvivz @ Aug 22 2022 03:54am)

Should sell that circ then
even +1 1os circs go for around 5-10k
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96227984&f=271