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Jul 17 2022 01:28pm
Anyone have a good barb vs all (BVA) build?

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Im messin around with one now and putting enough str to wear an ap fort for matchups helps a lot when u dont need the enigma, have a max block option as well. Against barbs i use arreats, angelics ammy 2 angelic rings, ap fort, stormshield, grief zerker (bm) ebotdz (gm),dungos, rends, gore riders. Have beast zerker when u dont need max block, have arachs 2 fcr rings a 2/20 barb circ and a an fcr ammy for hitting the 63fcr i believe against casters, and always duel wield against smiters. Sorry not so in depth but such is the extent of my minimum knowledge as im exploring the biuld as well
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Aug 19 2022 07:47pm
Quote (Bganjani @ Aug 19 2022 09:22pm)
Im messin around with one now and putting enough str to wear an ap fort for matchups helps a lot when u dont need the enigma, have a max block option as well. Against barbs i use arreats, angelics ammy 2 angelic rings, ap fort, stormshield, grief zerker (bm) ebotdz (gm),dungos, rends, gore riders. Have beast zerker when u dont need max block, have arachs 2 fcr rings a 2/20 barb circ and a an fcr ammy for hitting the 63fcr i believe against casters, and always duel wield against smiters. Sorry not so in depth but such is the extent of my minimum knowledge as im exploring the biuld as well


U need enigma for everything except bvb lol
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Aug 19 2022 10:28pm
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Quote (Bganjani @ Aug 19 2022 06:22pm)
Im messin around with one now and putting enough str to wear an ap fort for matchups helps a lot when u dont need the enigma, have a max block option as well. Against barbs i use arreats, angelics ammy 2 angelic rings, ap fort, stormshield, grief zerker (bm) ebotdz (gm),dungos, rends, gore riders. Have beast zerker when u dont need max block, have arachs 2 fcr rings a 2/20 barb circ and a an fcr ammy for hitting the 63fcr i believe against casters, and always duel wield against smiters. Sorry not so in depth but such is the extent of my minimum knowledge as im exploring the biuld as well


why do you always dual wield vs smiters? have you tried using a grief and ss? i use a fort ss and grief cb on my barb he does ok vs smiters.
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Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Aug 20 2022 07:13am)
why do you always dual wield vs smiters? have you tried using a grief and ss? i use a fort ss and grief cb on my barb he does ok vs smiters.



You cant block smite thats why coa berber and dungos and dualwield
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Quote (MischaDK @ Aug 20 2022 12:58am)
You cant block smite thats why coa berber and dungos and dualwield


ok didn't even think about berber coa. i was assuming he was sacrificing the dr for more damage.
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Quote (Bganjani @ Aug 20 2022 03:22am)
Im messin around with one now and putting enough str to wear an ap fort for matchups helps a lot when u dont need the enigma, have a max block option as well. Against barbs i use arreats, angelics ammy 2 angelic rings, ap fort, stormshield, grief zerker (bm) ebotdz (gm),dungos, rends, gore riders. Have beast zerker when u dont need max block, have arachs 2 fcr rings a 2/20 barb circ and a an fcr ammy for hitting the 63fcr i believe against casters, and always duel wield against smiters. Sorry not so in depth but such is the extent of my minimum knowledge as im exploring the biuld as well


Grief is not bm xD only in melee only or bvb
A grief on a bvc or bva was never bm
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Aug 20 2022 10:34am
Actually made one for fun here the other day. In a planner as i dont have much on d2r^^

The parts do not have to be this perf, but you get the idea, if fcr ring by any miracle includes high both psn and fire res u can run this low ammount of scs with res.

I'll try to explain the build:
Its a wirlwind barb with 1 hell of a throw, and lvl 1 leap as leap and stun in general is nerfed. Since stun is nerfed I did not skill war cry either.
Currently the build is setup up to play vs:
Hammerdin, Nec, Trapsin, light sorc and can easely duel fire sorc as well by just swapping boots into hots.
I would however remove javs vs trap and sorc, and make room for full bo equipment in cube.
By swapping beast with stormshield 'eld' u have just decided to have low damage at the gain of block, so you might as well ditch ur gores to use shadows and then u get 75% block.
Swap scs as needed to get more life, as you now will have 30fhr from shadows on ur way to reach 48fhr. You only need the lc and 2 scs with fhr when rocking shadows or coa or guilaume or arreats.
This setup also fits FPK nice.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/b30106f6

You can easely read the damage here, it does however not include the chance to deal double damage in its number, neither the berzerk/wirl/double throw bonuses...
Wirl will land at 4fpa each axe, aka 2 fpa wirl. (12,5 attacks per second) and can easely handle stuff like arach slow. It will end up at 5fpa vs nec like any reasonable barb build.
Meanwhile double throw lands at a total sum of 5 fpa. 63 Ias is needed for that, you have 75. Landing 4,5 fpa double throw would require 98 ias which is not viable without valk 08 on a barb made for mainly wirl and berzerk but with added strong ranged skill.

The attack rating is great here:
Wirl: 17717
Berzerk: 18781
Double throw:
Lacerator: 17259
Winged harpoon: 23062

Now, what we have not discussed yet is vs ele druid, vt/smiter, foh, cold sorc.
Duels where you want both 2 axes and DR or Light/Cold stack.

Vs cold, i did not bother to add the small charms you should. A few 20/11 or 20/5@ and ur up for stacking cold sorc.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/wa0106dk

Vs VT with high foh damage, swap some scs for more light res, and u only need the 1 lc for fhr,
we actually just run 20fcr break vs them.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/1w01062i

Vs ele druid:
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/4y0106b0

You can also run 37 or 63fcr + oak from wisp vs bowa if u want. Higher risk/higher reward.

Important breakpoints:
Fcr: 20 - 37 - 63
Fhr: 27 - 48 - 86

Again:
When u decide throw is not a relevant attack vs some enemies you put the javs in stash, then you add bo helm etc in cube instead. And you easy get 7k+ life.
The bo done on this planner is with 1 bo wep, 3wc ammu, 1 soj + normal gear....
Missing: 6 bo helm(which should be FALFAL to be able to bo with 2 sojs safe), as well as 2 bo wep instead of 1, and missing a soj xD So ur bo level can be: 8 skills higher.

If you decide to use a widowmaker instead of throws, or no ranged attack i can help with that as well. Will be very simular. Yet some easier setups for DR%.

This post was edited by gel87 on Aug 20 2022 10:42am
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