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MyAddiction's Financial Guide.
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Nara's Beginner Guide


Introduction:
~Why rouge?
They're the cheapest and not to mention they can wear any weapon itsept for heavy weapons. Not to mention they can do a little healing biggrin.gif
~I rather build a fighter, barbarian, or guardian because they don't as fast.
Of course they don't die as fast. They got more base health and can wear heavy armor, but in the long run rouge would be much better. How? Well it's pretty hard to find a decent weapon for a barb or fighter and obviously really hard to find one for guardian (for a budget player). The three class can tank all they want, but would they get any killing done? Rouge can find a nice ee weapon for extremely cheap (staff is the cheapest and probably one of the easiest to get a hand on). Sure rouge life would go down faster, but they would have more of a chance of killing a monster then a budget barbarian, guardian, or fighter.

Stats
Starting Stats
Strength: 30
Dexterity: 60
Intellegence: 25
Vitality: 35

For your first 15 stats (including your 10 first base stats) put it into vitality. Do this for the first 15 stats or you would not have as much life toward the upper levels.
If you did not put your first 15 stats into a differnt stats, then I would recommend rerolling because you won't be having that much life toward the end.

For the rest of your stats put it into STRENGTH. Do not put any into dex because right now you do not know what weapon you are gonna use until you get into the range and including the fact that dex gear is cheaper then strength gear. Putting stats into dexterity would possibly have no effect on your weapon, but with strength it would always have effect on your weapons. (Example: axe with dex isn't as effective. There's no weapon that do not go good without strength.)

Items:
~To see what is worthy of keeping and what isn't please refer to MyAddiction's Financial Guide (This is just the basic to determine what is good and what isn't. If there's a combination of stats that are lower then the one listed in MyAddiction guide then it may be useful. If you think it is useful, but you are not sure please feel free to pm me)
~Also an item do not need to have a good stat on it to have value. Please refer to MyAddiction guide again and go to the muteable section (Section 5)

How to get a few fg to get started.
Create your rouge and use the base equipment and climb up to level 5.(You should find at least 2 or more with mystical and higher stats items and if you do put every mystical and higher stats item up for 1 fg. Once you're level 5, you should post in the broke and new to ls and see if you're elgible for a small donation to get you started (1 month minum join date, 100 post minium, and level 5 character). If not you could reroll your character and try to find mystical or ++ or you could keep climbing to level 10.

Level 1/5-15
If you have a few fg (if not you can follow the little instruction above) look on the market for an weapon with 20 ee (bronze or iron only) The item should only cost you from 1-5 fg and you should try to only spend 5 fg at most. Right now on the market (12-27-08) there's a 25 ee bronze dagger for 1 fg and a 29 ee iron dagger for 2 fg. (Again, try to buy the best weapon you can with 5 fg at most). This will climb you to level 15 with a little grinding, but it would do. For your entire climb, put any mystical or ++ tier I or II for 1 fg or 2 fg. (Arcane or Higher would be bought for 2 fg with ease) because this will be a very big income for your climb. If you find a tier 3 or tier 4 item please refer to MyAddiction guide above to see if it either a shrine food (put it on market for 1 fg) or a useful items.

Level 15-25
Like 1/5-15, you should look for a level 15 weapon /w a minimium of 20 ee. It shouldn't be that hard to find one for fairly cheap. You would easily have made 5-20 fg just from selling shrine food from doing 5-15. Currently there is a 34 ee level 15 staff for 3 fg and that would carry you to 25 easily. Now you could look for a strength or dexterity armor and charm, but if you do not find one for a few fg then do not worry as it isn't really needed at the moment. I would recommend a strength armor and charm over a dex armor and charm. You won't have an high ee weapon that would do high critical, so you're better off finding a strength armor and charm, but dex armor and charm would work too. You should try to get an armor and charm with atleast 7 stats of dex or strength or a combination of both. Right now there's a 8 str charm for 1 fg and 9 dex armor for 1 fg.

Level 25-35
Now that you're 25, you should try to find an item with 40 ee. After saving up fg from previous levels you should have atleast 25 fg or possibly more. Now this is where rouge become much more useful then any other character in Ladder Slasher. It is much more scarce to find weapons for your character, but with a rouge you can wear all weapons (with exception of heavy weapons ofc). Since there's not much monk and not much rouge users, staff tend to be extremely cheap and in my opinion staff is one of the best weapons in the game. (I can do much more average damage and critical then any other weapons except sword with my staffs) Right now there's a 25 staff with 44 ee for 20 fg (which is extremely expensive for staff, but it show that rouge have great access for weapons. The next weapon is a 50 ee level 25 club for 100 fg.) Right about now you should try to look for a str/dex armor/charm. You should try to find one with at least 10 stats of strength and/or dexterity.

Level 35-45
After grinding your way to level 35, you should have a good amount of fg from selling shrines and muteables. You should try to find a weapon with 50 ee, but you could settle for lower if you can't find any level 35/40 ee weapon that is within your fg range. A 66 ee level 35 staff is up for trade for 70 fg which you should easily have from climbing up from 25-35. (Like I said before, this is the advantage of rouge. There's is much more weapons you can choose from and right now there's no weapon that is halfway decent for fighter or barbarian or guardian.) If you got 150 or more fg then I would recommend trying to buy a new dex or str charm/armor, but if you do not then DO NOT spend anymore fg because you will need it to climb from 45-71.

Level 45-55
You should now be looking for a 45 ee weapon, but if you see a level 50 ee weapon for trade that have a decent amount of ee (70+) and you got the amount of fg that it is selling for then try not to buy a level 45 weapon and buy the 50 weapon. There's a 71 ee level 50 staff that can easily take you to mq for 175 fg, but if you do not find one when you're around 45 then just look for a 45 weapon. Fg shouldn't be a big barrier around this level because of the few muteables you found from 35-45. Also you should try to find a better dex/str charm and armor if you can.

Level 55 To Master Quest
Now that you're 55, you could be using a decent level 50 ee weapon or you should be looking for a level 55 mq weapon. When I first started, I found a 92 ee level 55 staff for 125 and right now there is a 83 ee level 55 staff for 250 fg. Also did I mention there is no decent ee weapon that barbarian or fighter can use higher then level 40? This is why I highly recommend rouge. At this point you should try to spend every amount of fg you got at this point because it will be the hardest level you will be facing. Also you should try to find a better dex/str charm and armor if you can.

Catacomb
Catacombing would be a lot easier, you would easily get 8 shrineable each game and sell them for 1 fg each each game. One game usually is give you one level depending how good the group is which give you a minimum of 80 shrineables which equal to 76 fg (with the exclusion of muteables.) each 10 levels.

Conclusion
Of course you get the feeling that you did the entire climb by yourself and without any fg. Not to mention that you can sell the gps for 75 fg a pop which equal to a minimum of 150 fgs if you are guildless or looking for fg. After a few climb and getting a hang of everything, you should have a really nice setup. After 10 climbs I have a very nice solo setup and got a lot of fg on the side that me and my friend can use (3k fg). I can semi-support my guild members and help them level up.

Thanks

MyAddiction ~ For having such a nice guide
Somatra ~ For teaching the basic in a shorter version
Nara ~ For having the beginner guide

*I know there will be a few grammer issue and such. I read this three time, but I do not see anything that need to be change. If there is a error please feel free to pm me and point it out. I know this guide is setup in such a bad way, but this is my first guide. If you do not think this is a good guide please feel free to post why you think it is a bad guide. Please feel free to criticize my guide.

This post was edited by rjp on Dec 27 2008 10:37pm
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Dec 27 2008 10:30pm
reading this makes me wanna play Ls... Damn you, but nice thanks i might try a Hc rogue
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Dec 27 2008 10:44pm
this strat uses fg... i was lied to in topic title
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Bringing this up.
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Jan 2 2009 07:52pm
Quote (pocketwatch @ Sat, Dec 27 2008, 09:44pm)
this strat uses fg... i was lied to in topic title


Lol, very nice guide. Melee rogues can be done fairly easily w/o much fg, although idk if we needed another melee rogue build. tongue.gif
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nice guide
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Jan 7 2009 12:43pm
so you will be needing fg if you're following this guide. false advertisement on topic, other than that

nice guide
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Quote (kaineo @ Wed, 7 Jan 2009, 18:43)
so you will be needing fg if you're following this guide. false advertisement on topic, other than that

nice guide


he means starting with no fg.. ofc you need fg to lvl up -.-
Decent guide, although i wouldntt suggest playing a rogue biggrin.gif
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Jan 7 2009 05:04pm
I made enough fg's on hardcore to provide the payments for the weaponry for a fighter.

So personally would suggest a fighter to start off with.

None the less, I'm sure this will help some people out -- good job smile.gif
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Quote (eekzie @ Wed, 7 Jan 2009, 18:04)
I made enough fg's on hardcore to provide the payments for the weaponry for a fighter.

So personally would suggest a fighter to start off with.

None the less, I'm sure this will help some people out -- good job smile.gif


Yeah, a lot of people been quitting lately, so there's a lot more gear on the market hehe.. Probably in a month, less and less gear will be easier to find, at least I think so.


Well to show you guys the end result of this adventure after 12 climb (very close to 13, died at 69, and gonna finish this climb)
Here's everything I made after starting with nothing ( http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=27033169&f=35&st=30 ). Easily 6k worth of fg and/or more.
Also ripped here and if I didn't I can easily get 4k and/or more
( http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?c=3&i=235902&p=19614 Also here's a similar mq staff that I had on my rouge which sold for 4k http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=27058624&f=35)
(Also ripped here http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?c=3&i=235902&p=168821 )

So after 12 climb I would of made at least 10k if I were not to rip (due to my internet disconnecting hehe sad.gif)
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