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[Previously] Started a level 19.xx Catacomb using /set easy 0.
Found a Well @ 20.49 (Monster kills 344352).

Still welling: Side drop from Tier VI (level 15 white) & 0 ML:

Magical embossed leather armor
Level Req: 25
Physical Defense: 29 to 87
Magical Defense: 24 to 96
+100% Enhanced Effect[end]

Continued:

Still Welling ... cleared my level 10 and 15s ... Current Level: 22.55 (gained 2 levels) ... Monster Kills: 344389 = 37 Well Monsters (no slugsliders or any call for help appeared)

Continuing with level 5 whites (just a test for now), using level 5 Polearm with +2 ML

Side drop welling Level 5 white ... at least 1 fg :D

Arcane heartwood staff
Level Req: 15
Damage: 26 to 70
+1 Vitality
+2% Experience Gained
+1 Critical Strike
+1% Life Steal
+1% Heal Mastery
+4% Power Shot

+2 Camoslauge Monster kill

Mythical Tier V & Angelic Tier VI side drop (junks ... but nice shrines at higher levels)

Junk main drop still +1 fg:

Epic lightning IV
Level Req: 5
Spell Damage: 6 to 60
+5 Strength
+4 Dexterity
+5 Vitality
+1% Experience Gained
+1 to 2 Mana per Attack
+1 to 7 Life per Kill
+1% Damage Return
+1% Critical Flux
+1% Fire Mastery

Well died (poof) finally:

Monster Kills: 344407 = 16 Well monsters +2 Camoslauge... Level 22.59 (not much xp gain doing that low level items)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 7 2024 08:58pm
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Compilation from previous 2 posts.

Catacomb:
Level Start: 19.xx : /set easy 0 : did not jot down Monster Kills.

Well : Starting with Tier VI and then Tier Vs (level 15 & 10s)
Level 20.49 ... Monster Kills: 344352
Level 22.55 ... Monster Kills: 344389 (37 items : 2.06 Levels). Continue with Tier IVs
Level 22.59 ... Monster Kills: 344407 (16 items [+2 Camosluage] : 0.04 Levels)
... End of this Well. 100% ee level 25 Leather side drop doing level 15 white, an Arcane level 15 side drop doing level 5s.

Found another Well: Doing level 20s & 0 ML
Level 23.70 ... Monster Kills: 344462
Level 24.76 ... Monster Kills: 344476 (14 items, no call for help)
Still on Well: Doing level 25s & 0 ML
Level 25.08 ... Monster Kills: 344480 (4 items, no call for help)

Total Well Monsters: 71
Total Levels Gained: 4.48

Completed Catacomb @ Level 27.30 minus 4.48 = 22.82.
Dimension: 14w x 10h

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 7 2024 10:57pm
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Added Information from previous posts. Included into the the Table (Code) format below. Will have to retest some Catacombs.

KEY:
w = Width (lengthwise)
h = Height
+ = complete at higher level
- = complete at lower level
+/- = completed either lower or higher level
?? = incomplete information

Code
Dimension Catacomb Completed by:

05wX05h level 01 (level 02)
05wX05h level 02 (level 03)
06wX05h level 03 (level 04)
06wX06h level 04 (level 05)
07wX06h level 05 (level 07)
07wX06h level 06 (level 08)
08wX06h level 07 (level 09)
08wX07h level 08 (level ??)
09wX07h level 09 (level 11-13)
09wX07h level 10 (level 13)
10wX07h level 11 (level 15)
??wX?? level 12
11wX08h level 13 (level 16)
11wX08h level 14 (level 18)
12wX09h level 15
12wX09h level 16 (level 20)
??wX?? level 17

13wX09h catacomb confirmed. Completed by level 24. Level 14??
13wX09h level 18 (level 23-/+)

14wX10h level 19.xx (level 22.82)
14wX10h level 20 (level 26)
15wX10h level 21 (level 31)
16wX10h level 22 (level 26+)
15wX11h level 23 (29+)

16wX11h level 24 (level 32) ?? Retest

Level ??.?? catacomb 16w x 11h confirmed. Unconfirmed completion or starting.
16wX11h level 25 (level 34)
Level 25/26 catacomb 17w x 12h confirmed. Completed by level 40.08. Retest
17wX14h level 26 (level 32)??

??wX?? level 27
??wX?? level 28
19wX12h level 29 (39+/-)
??wX?? level 30
19wX?? level 31 (Td'd ?)
20wX13h level 32 (level 43)
20wX13h level 33 (Td'd ?)
21wX14h level 34 (level 46)
??wX?? level 35
??wX?? level 36
??wX?? level 37
??wX?? level 38

Level ??.?? catacomb 24w x 16h confirmed. Unconfirmed complete/start (recorded @ level 59)
24wX15h level 39 (level 55+/-)
24wX15h level 40 (level 59+/-)

??wX?? level 41

25wX16h level 42 (level 57+/-
25wX16h level 43 (level 61)
25wX16 level 44.66 (level 66.85)
??wX?? level 45
26wX17h level 46 (level 67)
??wX??h level 47
27wX17h level 48 (level 72+)
??wX?? level 49
29wX18h level 50??
30wX18h level 51??
??wX?? level 52
31wX19h level 53??
??wX?? level 54
32w20h level 55 (MQ lvl 73+ 75% completed)
32wX21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+)
32wX21 level 57??
??wX?? level 58
??wX?? level 59
??wX?? level 60
??wX?? level 61
??wX?? level 62
??wX?? level 63
36wX23h level 64 (MQ lvl 75+ 50% completed)
??wX?? level 65
??wX?? level 66
39wX24h level 67??

Map Dimensions

05wX05h Patched : Tier I Mlvl Cap 15: Roughly 1 level per
07wX06h Rawhide : Tier II Mlvl Cap 20: Roughly 2.3 levels per
10wX07h Tanned : Tier III Mlvl Cap 25: Roughly 3 levels per
12wX09h Cured : Tier IV Mlvl Cap 30: Roughly 5 levels per
15wX10h Hard : Tier V Mlvl Cap 35: Roughly 7 levels per

19wX13h Rigid : Tier VII Mlvl Cap 45: Roughly 10 levels per

29wX18h Enchanted : Tier XI Mlvl Cap 65: Roughly 21 levels per
31wX20h Embossed : Tier XII Mlvl Cap 70: Roughly 23 levels per



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Catacomb:

Level 27.30 to Level
Monster Kills: 344956 to
Dimension: 17/18w x 12h

Fell in a Trap Door:

Level 32.51
Monster Kills: 344850
Dimension: 17w x 12h

Roughly cleared 63% of the Catacomb.
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Catacomb:

Level 32.51 to Level
Monster Kills: 344850 to
Dimension:

What a great start clearing out the dead ends: https://prnt.sc/l0mF8_7RKMuZ

Currently: Level 33.84 and Monster Kills 344918 ... woot. Now let us move on. Dang.. went up... across 5 squares and up = dead end... back tracked a little. dang.

Moving on. Damn it, I believe the bottom left corner is the right dimension.. however... another dead end... :angry:
Moving on. I have been complaining, well, I am actually very lucky finding all those dead ends:
https://prnt.sc/tp9CGbDnmrk8

If I went down that one and only path ... I would have had a ton of back tracking. Dang... forgot to take a note of Monster Kills at that time... oh well... I am now at the Unexplored area now:

Monster Kills: 344992
Character Level: 35.37

Moving on: Damn... finally got a spin.. and in open space:

https://prnt.sc/aeytMQgghJeb

Moving on: I am lucky... I connected the dots back to where I "spun", by the looks of it... I can clear another dead end instead of backtracking too far. So... the bottom left dimension that is a dead end from the previous image is: 9w x 7h = 63 squares

Moving on: There are 2 sections that can get to an unexplored square... I am taking the closest one because I want to get the Width dimension: https://prnt.sc/8_sT3-o9BDdx

Level 37.15
Monster Kills: 345072

Moving on: This is just a guess: Dimension: 20w x 13h ... and now I just got a bad ass spin: https://prnt.sc/75PSjx6Y9Lih

Level 37.95
Monster Kills: 345113

Note... going to back track to the bottom and get the right hand side height dimensions confirmed.

Moving on: Deep in thought while intoxicated and an idea popped up when exploring a catacomb and presently I have to jot it down here.

Currently in a Catacom (not map), there is a % chance that a wave of monster will spawn when you are "turning around" (left, right and down) <- / -> . v "keypad S or arrow key down (backwards)". Now my idea is that there should NOT be a % chance for monsters to spawn using these methods for a % chance to spawn monsters, the ONLY time when they should spawn is when you are moving forward... Up arrow or pressing W while exploring a Catacomb. Not sure if it makes sense... I have to think on this a bit more.

Moving on:

Level 39.37
Monster Kills: 345185

Moving on: https://prnt.sc/iPXhgrfyWXl2 got back to unexplored area.

Moving on: got a nasty spin again... basically 10-15 squares from the last spin... :angry: Damn.. forgot to post level and monster kills. any way... I moved 15 times navigating... encountered monster waves, but now just jotting down Level + Monster kills.

Level 40.15
Monster Kills: 345224

Moving on: Dang... filled in the other two(2) Dead ends in the middle... have to go back to exploring the outer section... that was actually a lucky spin. Now to record things:

Level 41.33
Monstet Kills: 345283

Moving on: https://prnt.sc/eGIB1dxnM3e2

Level 42.14
Monster Kills: 345324

I am hoping that I don't fall in a TD... or get a bad spin... all the back tracking etc... all done with /set easy 0 ... would have been lower level and monster kills if I used /set easy 1 back tracking.

Moving on: Sweet... got Treasure Pest objective from an Emblem. Okay... got another spin... still bad... actually wish I could have made a gif image of the progress from all of the printscreens I have been posting... including this one from the 3rd spin: https://prnt.sc/KzVUWx27UNcM

Level 43.43
Monster Kills: 345389
Dimension 20w x 13h ... confirmed dimension starting @ level 32.41

Moving on: Spin to an open area : https://prnt.sc/Y0U99D3Ws7TE

Level 45.03
Monster Kills: 345472
Dimension the same: 20w x 13h.

Moving on: The image is clearing a 3x2 dead end... hoping for NO Trapdoor... hence the Prntscrn ... so

Level 47.18
Monster Kills: 345578

Moving on: I spun during that dead end... not too bad... only 23 actions (left/right/up/down) to get back to the unexplored squares.

Moving on: Finally on the last stretch of the catacomb with all the spins (3.. 4 maybe) and no rooms, but just in case of a trap door, and spin... i need to record the level etc.

Image: https://prnt.sc/f8AKEo4wX7Az

Level 49.06
Monster Kills: 345674

Moving on: Yeah... kinda worried about a trap door... so took a Prntscrn https://prnt.sc/fgd_bAtcUy8K

Level 49.81
Monster Kills 234708

Moving on: Just about there... took a Prnscrn just in case of a Trapdoor: https://prnt.sc/qtS4l1eL0AtC

Level 50.41
Monster Kills: 345740

Moving on: Wow... I was correct in my intuition ... cleared 2 unexplored squares from the Prntscrn and fell in a Trap Door ... did not realize on the next square and encountered 3 monster spawn wave.

Monster kills 345740 + 3 (trapdoor) 345743.
Level 50.47

Estimate:

Start level 32.51
Level @ TD: 50.41 (50.47 vs 3 monsters in TD = 2% each)
5 or 6 unexplored squares left... estimate 2 monster spawn per square = 10-12 monsters average = 7% experience bar (50.54) if completing the catacomb... maybe level 51.

End result assumption:
Catacomb Start: Level 32.51
Catacomb End: Level 51.
Dimension: 20w x 13h

Missed out on the map since catacomb was not cleared completely.
Note: some earlier Prntscrns may not be viewable.
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May 8 2024 11:06am
Let me try again:

Catacomb

Level 50.47
Monster Kills: 345743
Dimension:

I need some sleep... so posting progress:

Level 57.64
Monster Kills: 346099
Dimension: 17h (approx)
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 9 May 2024 05:06)
Let me try again:

Catacomb

Level 50.47
Monster Kills: 345743
Dimension:

I need some sleep... so posting progress:

Level 57.64
Monster Kills: 346099
Dimension: 17h (approx)


Know wonder I went off to sleep ... I kill off 12 monsters and then the next one is Soften the Sneaky Shell... so exited. Damn, could not even get the dimensions with all the dead ends and backtracking.

Well... back to having a bit of a break re-organising some mules.
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Added Information from previous posts. Included into the the Table (Code) format below. Will have to retest some Catacombs.

KEY:
w = Width (lengthwise)
h = Height
+ = complete at higher level
- = complete at lower level
+/- = completed either lower or higher level
?? = incomplete information

Code
Dimension Catacomb Completed by:

05w x 05h level 01 (level 02)
05w x 05h level 02 (level 03)
06w x 05h level 03 (level 04)
06w x 06h level 04 (level 05)
07w x 06h level 05 (level 07)
07w x 06h level 06 (level 08)
08w x 06h level 07 (level 09)
08w x 07h level 08 (level ??)
09w x 07h level 09 (level 11-13)
09w x 07h level 10 (level 13)
10w x 07h level 11 (level 15)
??w x ??h level 12
11w x 08h level 13 (level 16)
11w x 08h level 14 (level 18)
12w x 09h level 15
12w x 09h level 16 (level 20)
??w x ??h level 17

13w x 09h level ?? (Retest say 14+)
13w x 09h level 18 (level 23-/+)

14w x 10h level 19.xx (level 22.82)
14w x 10h level 20 (level 26)
15w x 10h level 21 (level 31)
16w x 10h level 22 (level 26+)
15w x 11h level 23 (29+)

16w x 11h level 24 (level 32) ?? Retest

16w x 11h Retest
16w x 11h level 25 (level 34)
17w x 12h Retest 25 or 26 (level 40.08)
17w x 14h level 26 (level 32)??

??w x ??h level 27
??w x ??h level 28
19w x 12h level 29 (39+/-)
??w x ??h level 30
19w x ??h level 31 (Td'd ?)
20w x 13h level 32 (level 43)
20w x 13h level 33 (Td'd ?)
21w x 14h level 34 (level 46)
??w x ??h level 35
??w x ??h level 36
??w x ??h level 37
??w x ??h level 38

24w x 16h Retest (level 59)
24w x 15h level 39 (level 55+/-)
24w x 15h level 40 (level 59+/-)

??w x ??h level 41

25w x 16h level 42 (level 57+/-
25w x 16h level 43 (level 61)
25w x 16h level 44.66 (level 66.85)
??w x ??h level 45
26w x 17h level 46 (level 67)
??w x ??h level 47
27w x 17h level 48 (level 72+)
??w x ??h level 49
29w x 18h level 50??
30w x 18h level 51??
??w x ??h level 52
31w x 19h level 53??
??w x ??h level 54
32w x 20h level 55 (MQ lvl 73+ 75% completed)
32w x 21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+)
32w x 21h level 57??
??w x ??h level 58
??w x ??h level 59
??w x ??h level 60
??w x ??h level 61
??w x ??h level 62
??w x ??h level 63
36w x 23h level 64 (MQ lvl 75+ 50% completed)
??w x ??h level 65
??w x ??h level 66
39w x 24h level 67??

Map Dimensions

05wX05h Patched : Tier I Mlvl Cap 15: Roughly 1 level per
07wX06h Rawhide : Tier II Mlvl Cap 20: Roughly 2 levels per
10wX07h Tanned : Tier III Mlvl Cap 25: Roughly 3 levels per
12wX09h Cured : Tier IV Mlvl Cap 30: Roughly 5 levels per
15wX10h Hard : Tier V Mlvl Cap 35: Roughly 7 levels per

19wX13h Rigid : Tier VII Mlvl Cap 45: Roughly 10 levels per

29wX18h Enchanted : Tier XI Mlvl Cap 65: Roughly 21 levels per
31wX20h Embossed : Tier XII Mlvl Cap 70: Roughly 23 levels per
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Okay... trying again:

Catacomb: /set easy 0

Level 57.85
Monster Kills: 346110

Typical.. but at least it was early... fell in a Trap door:

Level 58.83
Monster Kills: 346157
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Okay... trying again: Note: I know I won't complete the catacomb, I am just after the dimensions width x height.

Catacomb: /set easy 0

Level 58.83
Monster Kills: 346157

20 height

Level 61.87
Monster Kills: 346309

Now to get width

Damn... found an Emblem ... maybe a TD, hoping for a Well, and definitely don't want a Spin. Here goes Xfingers... something to do with Experience... either gain or loss... did not check prior.

Moving on:

Found another Emblem... wish me luck? Oh just in case... just posting notes:

Level 63.20
Monster Kills: 346373

Sweet. just a normal monster spawn.

Found another Emblem... don't wish me luck.. I am in the centre(center) of the catacomb now... so here goes.

Level 63.76
Monster Kills: 346400

Just normal monster spawn again, this time 3 appeared instead of 1.

:rofl: mao... the next step spun me back to the Left side of the cata where I managed to get the height... oh ffs. Had to take a Prntscrn ... Note: I was in the middle of the cata (vertically and horizontally):

https://prnt.sc/hY7SERaC_Xd9

Well... going to try and connect the dots again... hunting width

Another Emblem, my intuition is hmm, so I took a Prntscrn : https://prnt.sc/6pQwRQXVPjA_

Level 65.98
Monster Kills: 346513

Sweet, just an EP and junk drops per usual.

woot... connected with the bottom. :D

Spun to the middle again... but I think I have the width

32 width

So roughly: 32w x 20h Starting level @ Level 58.83 ... currently at level: 66.57 (71 MQ lvl) : Monster Kills: 346540

Hmm... going to get to 71.

If I don't fall down a Trap door, I maybe able to give an estimate on what level you would be if you cleared it.

Basically take the explored areas, add in the monster kills by your character level from start to X level and something or other to do with the dimension:

32x20 = 640 squares... ignore the first square when you enter catacomb since nothing happens... no spawns etc. Yes the last square is a Map, however, you can still spawn monsters at the same time... even a Treasure Chest or TD etc.

I wish I could explain it better.

Anyway... I took another Prntscrn: https://prnt.sc/wceD53tjZ3vg
Level 68.60
Monster Kills: 346643 (what timing :D )

Just in case, and can gather more info later on. ... dang got a spin not long after this and ended up on the left side of maze... explored area.

Damn it... got Slugslider and the screen is full:

Level 69.84
Monster Kills: 346709 (including previous slugsliders on the square)

Okay... cleared the slugsliders:

Level 70.03
Monster Kills: 346719
Now just one level to go. :D

Okay... Now level 71 (MQ level)
Prntscrn of the areas I cleared from starting @ level 58.83 to level 71.01: https://prnt.sc/zEAHsBgEMK9z
Monster Kills Start: 346157
Monster Kills MQlvl: 346770
Dimension: 32w x 20h = 620 squares (619 to explore)
Current squares explored from 58.83 to 71.01...

Explored 508 squares out of 619:

Damn... I know there is a solution to get the final level if completing it. ;P

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