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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Feb 5 2018 12:22pm)
Which program? I just wrapped up Juggernaut Method and started the cowboy method before ending it earlier to start my cut.

Keep rolling with that shit, it'll add strength in no time..



Inverted juggernaut , deadlift is stronger, bench apparently is.... squat has actually fallen like a rock
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nothing about my conventional deadlift feels right :cry:

been really working at mobility, but i think i'm doomed to sumo for the rest of my life.


lately i've been doing conventional dl's maybe once a month, mainly because i just cannot get into a good enough position to break the weight off the floor, my lower back rounds, which is no good -_-


any advice would be appreciated
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKoBDjAuGwQ


nothing about my conventional deadlift feels right :cry:

been really working at mobility, but i think i'm doomed to sumo for the rest of my life.


lately i've been doing conventional dl's maybe once a month, mainly because i just cannot get into a good enough position to break the weight off the floor, my lower back rounds, which is no good -_-


any advice would be appreciated



Obv I'm a scrub but have you tried isometric deadlift holds?
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Quote (Pete1028 @ Feb 6 2018 03:52pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKoBDjAuGwQ


nothing about my conventional deadlift feels right :cry:

been really working at mobility, but i think i'm doomed to sumo for the rest of my life.


lately i've been doing conventional dl's maybe once a month, mainly because i just cannot get into a good enough position to break the weight off the floor, my lower back rounds, which is no good -_-


any advice would be appreciated


Stop hyperextending your thoracic spine.. You want your spine in a neutral position, IDK if your lumbar IS really curved or it looks that way because your forcing lordosis on yourself :rofl:

Follow CWS and Juggernaut for more on this.

IMO it looks like your getting tight through hyperextending your back, when you should be getting tight by sitting your hips back and driving your feet through the ground by flexing your hammies and ass.

Rather than hyperextending your back during the initial set up, try imaging that your shoving your shoulders back and up WHEN YOU INITIATE THE PULL, not when you set up. So, the best cues ive ever heard are.

1. Drive your shoulders up and back during the initial pull
2. Imagine your jumping up and back, that's what you want to do with your hips.
3. Keep your chin tucked down during the movement, when you're looking up you're taking out your glutes and hammies.


Quote (dirTyMan @ Feb 6 2018 03:46pm)
Inverted juggernaut , deadlift is stronger, bench apparently is.... squat has actually fallen like a rock


I looked at the inverted method, but something about 10 sets of anything sounded terrible lol.

wonder why your squat is dropping
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I have no idea, my squat has never been stable. I was squatting 315x3 a few months back
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Quote (Pete1028 @ Feb 6 2018 10:52am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKoBDjAuGwQ


nothing about my conventional deadlift feels right :cry:

been really working at mobility, but i think i'm doomed to sumo for the rest of my life.


lately i've been doing conventional dl's maybe once a month, mainly because i just cannot get into a good enough position to break the weight off the floor, my lower back rounds, which is no good -_-


any advice would be appreciated



work on glute activation and work on ankle mobility

This post was edited by tommyd323 on Feb 6 2018 12:29pm
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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Feb 6 2018 11:12am)
Stop hyperextending your thoracic spine.. You want your spine in a neutral position, IDK if your lumbar IS really curved or it looks that way because your forcing lordosis on yourself :rofl:

Follow CWS and Juggernaut for more on this.

IMO it looks like your getting tight through hyperextending your back, when you should be getting tight by sitting your hips back and driving your feet through the ground by flexing your hammies and ass.

Rather than hyperextending your back during the initial set up, try imaging that your shoving your shoulders back and up WHEN YOU INITIATE THE PULL, not when you set up. So, the best cues ive ever heard are.

1. Drive your shoulders up and back during the initial pull
2. Imagine your jumping up and back, that's what you want to do with your hips.
3. Keep your chin tucked down during the movement, when you're looking up you're taking out your glutes and hammies.




I looked at the inverted method, but something about 10 sets of anything sounded terrible lol.

wonder why your squat is dropping


not intentionally curving T__T

its all mobility, or lack there of

i physically cannot get my hips lower and my shoulders back, and it's getting better, but ive been working on mobility for a while now and used yesterday as a progress report

and i failed T__T



back to sumo




405 don't really feel heavily, it just feels uncomfortable -_-



ive been tempted to wear my squat shoes to conventional deadlift :huh:

This post was edited by Pete1028 on Feb 6 2018 05:42pm
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Quote (Pete1028 @ Feb 6 2018 07:39pm)
not intentionally curving T__T

its all mobility, or lack there of

i physically cannot get my hips lower and my shoulders back, and it's getting better, but ive been working on mobility for a while now and used yesterday as a progress report

and i failed T__T



back to sumo




405 don't really feel heavily, it just feels uncomfortable -_-



ive been tempted to wear my squat shoes to conventional deadlift :huh:


squat shoes wouldn't help, youd be effectively pulling from a deficit ie. requiring greater flexibility that you already dont have

first off stop trying to move 405 if you cant move it properly. ego lifting has no place in anything, ever. second off, sumo is gay. third, make yourself more flexible in the hamstrings first, and deadlift with weights you can actually lift properly before trying to lift heavy things.
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Quote (Mastersam93 @ Feb 6 2018 09:50am)
Give me a little bit. I took one.

/e. Definitely some lower back rounding, especially on the way down. But right before I tried to lift the bar, that's as neutral as my spine will go, which is why I want to work on flexibility a lot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnBzXGY867g


dont ever look at the mirror when deadlifting unless youre already locked out. craning your neck makes it harder to keep the rest of your spine actually straight. you have no length in your hamstrings and poor initial positioning. if you start in a shitty position you will finish in a shitty position. look at pete's deadlift as an example of what not to do.

keep your neck neutral throughout the entire movement. dont look up or down, just look at 90 degrees to your spine. set your spine in neutral before you do ANYTHING. dont even think about bending to the bar until your spine is straight and back musculature/abs are tight. fold forward at the hips WITHOUT ALLOWING YOUR SPINE TO BEND. when you cannot fold forward at the hip any more, flex your knees to allow yourself to reach the bar. once you've gripped the bar, re-extend your knees slightly to re-establish tension in the hamstrings, and then the ONLY FUCKING MOVEMENT YOU PERFORM IS HIP EXTENSION AND MILD KNEE EXTENSION. YOUR SPINE SHOULD NOT EVER MOVE IN A DEADLIFT.
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Feb 6 2018 08:32pm
Quote (cloudkicker @ Feb 6 2018 06:23pm)
dont ever look at the mirror when deadlifting unless youre already locked out. craning your neck makes it harder to keep the rest of your spine actually straight. you have no length in your hamstrings and poor initial positioning. if you start in a shitty position you will finish in a shitty position. look at pete's deadlift as an example of what not to do.

keep your neck neutral throughout the entire movement. dont look up or down, just look at 90 degrees to your spine. set your spine in neutral before you do ANYTHING. dont even think about bending to the bar until your spine is straight and back musculature/abs are tight. fold forward at the hips WITHOUT ALLOWING YOUR SPINE TO BEND. when you cannot fold forward at the hip any more, flex your knees to allow yourself to reach the bar. once you've gripped the bar, re-extend your knees slightly to re-establish tension in the hamstrings, and then the ONLY FUCKING MOVEMENT YOU PERFORM IS HIP EXTENSION AND MILD KNEE EXTENSION. YOUR SPINE SHOULD NOT EVER MOVE IN A DEADLIFT.


do u even deadlift
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