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Jul 27 2017 12:34pm
Quote (Mastersam93 @ 25 Jul 2017 14:56)
My current lifts are, at 5'8 and ~160 lbs:
Bench: 145 x 3
Squat: 235 x 5
Deadlift: 245: 1
OHP: 115 x 5
Row: 135 x 5


Weird.

My stats for 2,5 months in are:
Bench: 200 x 1
Squat: 220 x 1
Deadlift: 300 x 1
OHP: 120 x 5
Row: - 100 x 12

Don't understand how you can squat so much more. I guess mine's so off.

This post was edited by SnoopieIX on Jul 27 2017 12:42pm
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Jul 27 2017 04:23pm
Quote (SnoopieIX @ Jul 27 2017 01:34pm)
Weird.

My stats for 2,5 months in are:
Bench: 200 x 1
Squat: 220 x 1
Deadlift: 300 x 1
OHP: 120 x 5
Row: - 100 x 12

Don't understand how you can squat so much more. I guess mine's so off.



I've been lifting on and off for a few years now and always prioritized squats.
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Jul 29 2017 10:44am
Quote (wesley123 @ Jul 26 2017 03:21pm)
It gives someone something to follow and progress. The program forces you to track progress and progressively add more weight. Not everyone is disciplined enough to trace their own progress on a program and getting on something forces it.

I follow a program. I follow it because If I layout weeks worth of workouts I can help manage my fatigue while still hitting what I need to to progress over a period of time to hit a desired goal.

For instance yesterday i was doing hypertrophy work and doing 405 on d/l for 4 sets of 10. I felt great probably could have easily hit way more or higher weights for 10 but that accumulated fatigue would then ruin my squat workout which is tomorrow thus I capped it there also likely the benefit received from going a bit heavier or more reps would be negligible.. Accumulated fatigue from any body part will impact other areas at some point. Proper planning can mitigate it.

4 weeks hypertrophy (3 on 1 deload)
8 weeks strength ( 3 on 1 deload ) x 2
4 weeks peeking ( 3 on 1 deload )

Do it again.


Then build a program that doesn't have you do squats so close after your deads. You talk about proper planning, but your planning is taking away from your lifts especially since you deload every fourth week.

There's almost no reason for a guy like op to even worry about following a program like this with his numbers and that was the point that I was making with my first post.
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Jul 29 2017 11:13am
Quote (Braxton11 @ Jul 29 2017 12:44pm)
Then build a program that doesn't have you do squats so close after your deads. You talk about proper planning, but your planning is taking away from your lifts especially since you deload every fourth week.

There's almost no reason for a guy like op to even worry about following a program like this with his numbers and that was the point that I was making with my first post.


I squat twice a week how do you propose to spread it out more.

Squat bench dead rest squat bench rest typical 5 day. I don't personally have the time to start combing compounds into one day hence separation.

A plan that tracks is always beneficial no matter what level. You hold yourself to something rather than just fucking off and doing the same shit over and over. Locking in a positive habit early is a great long run positive.

Whens the last time you held yourself to something? Not to be offensive but I only remember you as never making any progress and just being sick all the time.

I guess I just take the opposition because I know my one regret is not tracking from day one. Slapping better numbers on the page for day 2 and holding myself accountable to it. If I could go back I would.


And no hitting a deload week every fourth is not taking away from me. The amount of drain working 10-12 hours a day and lifting heavy requires it. You have no idea what I do outside of the gym.

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Jul 29 2017 11:22am
Quote (wesley123 @ Jul 29 2017 05:13pm)
I squat twice a week how do you propose to spread it out more.

Squat bench dead rest squat bench rest typical 5 day. I don't personally have the time to start combing compounds into one day hence separation.

Any having a plan that tracks is always beneficial no matter what level. You hold yourself to something rather than just fucking off and doing the same shit over and over.


And no hitting a deload week every fourth is not taking away from me. The amount of drain working 10-12 hours a day and lifting heavy requires it. You have no idea what I do outside of the gym.



Mon-Squat
Tues-Bench
Wed-Break
Thurs-Dead
Fri-OHP
Sat-Squat
Sun-Break

OHP won't drain your soul for squats
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Jul 29 2017 11:25am
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Jul 29 2017 01:22pm)
Mon-Squat
Tues-Bench
Wed-Break
Thurs-Dead
Fri-OHP
Sat-Squat
Sun-Break

OHP won't drain your soul for squats


Iv responded well to benching twice a week. Plus as I mentioned this is a hypertrophy block we're talking about. It takes a different shape once hitting strength, some accessory work starts to drop off as well.



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Quote (wesley123 @ Jul 29 2017 12:13pm)
I squat twice a week how do you propose to spread it out more.

Squat bench dead rest squat bench rest typical 5 day. I don't personally have the time to start combing compounds into one day hence separation.

A plan that tracks is always beneficial no matter what level. You hold yourself to something rather than just fucking off and doing the same shit over and over. Locking in a positive habit early is a great long run positive.

Whens the last time you held yourself to something? Not to be offensive but I only remember you as never making any progress and just being sick all the time.

I guess I just take the opposition because I know my one regret is not tracking from day one. Slapping better numbers on the page for day 2 and holding myself accountable to it. If I could go back I would.


And no hitting a deload week every fourth is not taking away from me. The amount of drain working 10-12 hours a day and lifting heavy requires it. You have no idea what I do outside of the gym.


Not really sure why you don't deadlift twice a week if you're benching and squatting twice a week.

You're right, I have no idea what you do in life. With what you just said about needing deloads every 4 weeks because of your life and then saying earlier that you plan to not exhaust yourself doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If that is the case, you should be planning your routine so you don't need to deload every 4 weeks.

I'm not against having a plan/program that you follow. I'm saying that I'm against people feeling that they need to be a slave to programs like SS/Wendler's/Stronglifts/etc.

You can easily make your own with a template of a push/pull/legs or upper/lower and you can easily change your programming based on your goals with changing up rest time, sets, reps, intensity, etc. You can seriously change up your whole day by adding an extra second to your eccentric movement or throwing in iso holds. My point is that beginner lifters should be programming for themselves and learning.

As for me, I had a few years where I couldn't get any meds to work and probably made it seem like I was full of excuses, but it was either lifting or school and I chose school. I'm now back to lifting and more than happy with my numbers. I'm always changing up my programming to be able to advise future clients on what I've learned.
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Jul 30 2017 08:15am
Quote (Braxton11 @ 29 Jul 2017 14:17)
Not really sure why you don't deadlift twice a week if you're benching and squatting twice a week.

You're right, I have no idea what you do in life. With what you just said about needing deloads every 4 weeks because of your life and then saying earlier that you plan to not exhaust yourself doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If that is the case, you should be planning your routine so you don't need to deload every 4 weeks.

I'm not against having a plan/program that you follow. I'm saying that I'm against people feeling that they need to be a slave to programs like SS/Wendler's/Stronglifts/etc.

You can easily make your own with a template of a push/pull/legs or upper/lower and you can easily change your programming based on your goals with changing up rest time, sets, reps, intensity, etc. You can seriously change up your whole day by adding an extra second to your eccentric movement or throwing in iso holds. My point is that beginner lifters should be programming for themselves and learning.

As for me, I had a few years where I couldn't get any meds to work and probably made it seem like I was full of excuses, but it was either lifting or school and I chose school. I'm now back to lifting and more than happy with my numbers. I'm always changing up my programming to be able to advise future clients on what I've learned.


Some of us aren't really into geeking out over routines and learning the science behind why or how. We just want something easy and mindless to follow that's already put together and doesn't require any extra effort on our part. ;)
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Quote (Cambridge @ Jul 30 2017 09:15am)
Some of us aren't really into geeking out over routines and learning the science behind why or how. We just want something easy and mindless to follow that's already put together and doesn't require any extra effort on our part. ;)



You filthy casual.
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Jul 30 2017 08:43am
Just finished the first week of exercises, figure I'd do like a weekly update. So I'm using the app to track my workouts and after each set it starts an alarm that goes off at 90 seconds and 3 minutes, so I've been doing the next set after the 90 second one. What I've noticed is even though squatting 120 lbs is pretty easy, doing 5 quick sets of 120 is still going to get your heart rate up. And doing barbell rows quickly still works the forearms a bit. So even though the weights are low, the speed of the workout still leaves me feeling like the workouts aren't just a waste.

Have not been keeping up with the diet that well. Last weekend I had a lot going on and couldn't do my regular meal prep, but this weekend should be different.

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