Do you recommend using craze, c4, or gat jetfuel the most? Or are they all completely different in terms of use?

for the passed 3 weeks my schedule has been

wakeup at around 7-8am. go to gym before i eat, hiit + 2 body parts a day.

come home take 2 scoops of proteinz in water, then go to work at 11. the first time i eat any real food all day is my work meal at about 1-2pm, which consists of 2 beef patties/2 slices of cheese wrapped in lettuce. about 520 calories

the next time i eat is after my work, but during work i feel so sluggish and tired and unfocused. is this because i need carbs before work?

This post was edited by Kiston on May 3 2013 08:48am

Hi SKCRaynor,can u explaine how they do?. we see many videos of body transformation on youtube, how they manage to move from 230lbs to 185lbs cut at like 6-8% bf in only 2-3 months ? cause many of peopel try it and fail..its really hard?

Yo big boss. As you know I am currently on a 4 day split and would like to switch to 5 days to hit upper body more often. My current routine consists of:

Day 1: Legs
Squat - 4x5
Deadlift: 4x5
Walking Lunges - 3x20
Leg Curls - 4x12
Calves - 4x12

Day 2: Chest/Triceps
Flat BB Bench Press - 4x5
Inclined DB Press - 4x8
Cable Crossover - 4x10
Machine Fly - 4x8
Tricep Pushdown - 4x10
Skull Crusher - 4x8
Dips - 2 sets to failure

Day 3: Back/Biceps
Lat Pulldown - 4x8
Standing Rows with a BB - 4x10
Seated Rows with a little V bar - 4x10
T-Bar Rows - 4x10
DB Rows - 4x8
Standing Bicep BB Curls - 4x10
Standing DB Hammer Curls - 2x10 (each arm)

Day 4: Shoulders
Smith Machine Shoulders Press - 4x8
DB Military Press - 4x8
Side DB Raise - 4x10 with a dropset (each arm)
Front DB Raise - 4x10 (each arm)
Rear Delt Machine - 4x12
Shrugs - 4x12

Those exercises exclude warm-up sets. Basically my new routine will consist of:

Push (Chest/Triceps/Shoulders)
Pull (Back/Biceps)
Legs (Same routine)
Push
Pull

I'd like to know which exercises you would keep/take off on push and pull, and if you would have modified anything in my current routine!
Thank you!

I prefer Jet Fuel to all.

It can be a combination of things. Usually working out increase testosterone levels and will make you want to remain unfocused by non-physical or uninteresting tasks. Furthermore, you are fatigued from the workout which is totally normal.

Caffeine at work, with carbs, would probably be helpful. However, caffeine by itself may be enough for you.

Cutting from 230 - 185 in 3 months would be around 45 lbs / 3 months = 15 lbs a month = approx 3.75 lbs a week.

This is very possible with a very strict cutting diet, workout routine, supplement plan, and tons of motivation and no cheating.

It is, however, very difficult.

Here are my two plans for 5-day.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=352563664
Hypertrophy 5 day split (modified)

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=345300636
5x5 plan


As far as your routine goes, and the exercises to sub/change...everything already looks good!

Is there a compilation post that links all your guides / plans?

Not to all of them. Is there something particular you require?