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Jan 24 2011 03:43pm
I recently looked for your help on your help thread in the health and fitness section.
I was wondering if you had time, you could help me plan a diet with variations so that its not the same thing day in and day out.
I mainly want it to be a cutting diet, and I've looked at the diet you have listed in this help thread.

But I was wondering if you could help me setup alternatives so I can change it up a little.

Example with help from what I have read off your help thread and am basing it off my schedule to see what you can help me with:

Morning:
-Wake up at 5:00.
-Have a Fat Burning Supplement within first 5-10 minutes of waking up.
-Wait 15-30 minutes after taking the supplement and have meal 1.
-Meal 1 Options:
-Alt 1: 4 whole eggs + 1 oz full fat cheese w/ 1/2 cup green peppers
-Alt 2: ?
-Alt 3: ? and anymore options if you can come up with them easily.
-Go to YMCA at 6:00.
-Do Cardio for 45 Minutes.
-Need help with this. I need to build up my knee strength. If i do intensive workouts they get really sore and I can barely walk.
-I have access to a pool, Bikes, Treadmills, Oscillators(if that's how its spelled), and a track at the Y. What water exercises would you recommend for cardio if you know any, and how long to match a 45-minute cardio workout. Also, how hard/long would I have to go on a bike to match a running cardio regime? Both of these options would be until I have built up the knee strength, and yes i have seen a doctor/knee specialist about my knee problems and they don't know what the problem is.
-Leave Y around 7:00-7:15.
-Lounge about until 8:30.
-8:30 Eat Meal 2:
-Meal 2 Options:
-Alt 1: 1 zero carb protein shake w/ 3 tbsp heavy cream
-Alt 2: ? Even just a different additive to the shake.
-Alt 3: ? Or anything else I could put here.
-8:45 get ready for work.
-9:30 Leave for work.
-10:00 Start work.
-11:30 Have Meal 3
-Meal 3 Options:
-Alt 1: 1 salad with chicken breast and 2 tbsp olive oil + vinegar
-Alt 2: ?? Something along those lines, but I don't cope well with olive oil or vinegar. Any alternatives?
-Alt 3: or just any other alternatives to this meal.
-2:30 Meal 4.
-Meal 4 Options:
-Alt 1: 1 can of tuna + 2 oz full fat cheese + 2-3 tbsp mayo + green veggies (celery, green pepper, etc)
-Alt 2: Just another Alternative.
-Alt 3: Ditto.
-5:30 Meal 5. ( Still at work).
-Meal 5 Options:
-Alt 1: 6oz ground beef (80/20) with grated romano cheese, 4tbsp tomato sauce, and green veggies
-Alt 2: Is there a way i can change the distances between meals? This meal I feel should be eaten at home.
-Alt 3: Any.
-Home from work at 7-7:30.
-Go to the Y, Do Weights according to your workout plan. Or go out with friends. (I mainly want to lose weight, I don't care too much about building my strength.)
-8:30 Meal 6.
-Meal 6 options:
-Alt 1: 1 cup cottage cheese + either 3tbsp heavy cream or 2tbsp olive oil w/ 8-10 almonds.
-Alt 2: ?
-Alt 3: ??

That is what I've come up with off your plan.
I have a couple problems I need help with.
1. With your plan, I have 3 meals during my work day. (Tue-Friday, Saturdays I only work 10-2.)
-Is there anyway to fix this? especially with meal 5 being the biggest? I'd prefer to eat that at home.
2. Your diets always have cardio + muscle training. Is there away I can work smaller muscle training in without having to go to the gym everynight?
-I'm not looking to muscle build. I just want to get down to a nice slimmer weight, and following your plan I would have no time for a social life.
3. What are all the supplements + Shakes you would recommend and where do i get them from? they are all confusing to me in your post you linked.
4. How could I go about learning what foods are alright to substitute into the diet that wont mess it up, and how to calculate my Caloric intake for the meal/day?
5. Any and all help would be appreciated. If you can help me, I will be coming into forum gold at the beginning of February from sales I'll be doing and I'd gladly donate to your cause.

Feel free to pm me with a reply to this. I tried pming this to you but your inbox is currently full.

Thanks,
-Tanner.
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Jan 25 2011 03:00am
Quote (Armani_Code @ Jan 23 2011 11:28pm)
Appreciate it.

What about the symetrical problem?


sorry about that.

you can train the left side exclusively ONCE per week for a total of 20-30 sets (GO HEAVY). This will force growth on the left side. Just make sure you leave enough time for recovery afterwards. There is no specific plan to follow - rely on your instincts as to which part needs the most attention and go from there. Do not do left side by itself more than once per week.

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Jan 25 2011 03:02am
Quote (dirTyMan @ Jan 24 2011 12:50am)
I trimmed my beard a bit for this picture



Stats : Bench 155 5/5/5
Squat 220 5/5/5
Deadlift 225+ 5
Weight 179 lbs , up 4 pounds since December been on a Strength program for a few months.
Height: 6'1

Not sure what to do , keep strength training , bulk (dont really want to) , or cut?

I dont think my lifts are great enough to be successful on a BB routine though.



Definitely keep bulking. You are doing well but you still need to be packing on mass if your goal is to get into BBing.

See these:


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=321315004
5x5 plan

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=327158583
Hypertrophy Plan

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=335896241
Bulking Diet, workout, and supplement guide

Quote (dirTyMan @ Jan 24 2011 02:02am)
/edit , I would actually like to cut down to about 10% BF , but I dont want to do a 6 day split at the game , I'd rather do 4 at most. Can you help. I also need a diet , as I've never once cut before.



I would avoid cutting right now, if you really want to...check this guide:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466
anabolic cutting diet


for the workout,


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=304396247
Cutting Workout Routine


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=330745031
Abs Workout Routine


Just re-arrange things to fit your 4-day structure accordingly.


This post was edited by SKCRaynor on Jan 25 2011 03:04am
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Jan 25 2011 03:04am
Quote (MegaVovaN @ Jan 24 2011 02:54am)
Ok, so would this be a very good breakfast then?

2 scoops of whey (appr 44 g of protein) /w water + 1 cup of oat meal + 1 banana + blue berries

Another question. Is eating beef liver often healthy?


yes that's perfect.

Yes beef liver is pretty healthy...obviously grass fed beef is generally the way to go, but any beef liver is fine.
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Jan 25 2011 03:06am
Quote (SyB_BaM @ Jan 24 2011 11:09am)
Hi, Raynor!

I'm doing the Hypertrophy program you gave me, but I got a question about it -

How much rest between each exercise?

Also, you said you've wrote wrong in that with 75% of max, that the correct actually is 85% of max on those sets in there, and you're still giving many people it without changing ? ^_^


For hypertrophy you want to keep it to no more than 15-30 seconds of rest between sets, and no more than 1 minute between exercises.

As far as the 5x5 plan goes...good point I forgot to update it, I will post it below and re-copy the link for everyone.
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Jan 25 2011 03:11am
5x5 PLAN for Strength and Size

(fixed the set/rep/weight % and so forth)

The 5x5 plan is basically 5 reps for 5 sets of a particular exercise for most days. Other exercises will be 5 sets of 8-12 reps. You will do at LEAST 20 total sets per day. It will be used in the following manner for 5x5:

Set 1 – 5 reps of 60% max weight
Set 2 – 5 reps of 70% max weight
Set 3 – 5 reps of 85% max weight
Set 4 – 5 reps of 85% max weight
Set 5 – 5 reps of 90% max weight

So if you can bench press 225 lbs for 1 rep, your set would look like this –
Set 1 – 135 lbs [135 x 5]
Set 2 – 155 lbs [155 x 5]
Set 3 - 185 lbs [185 x 5]
Set 4 - 185 lbs [185 x 5]
Set 5 – 205 lbs [205 x 5]




In order to determine your max, however, grab a spotter at the gym, and load up weight until you can only do 1 unassisted rep. That is your 1-rep max from which you will be able to get your 5x5 plan started.
Don’t forget, its best to use a spotter no matter what, but if you can’t the 5x5 is fine to do without one. As for the 5x8-12, you will do moderately heavy weight for optimal burn and pump.


Day 1 (Monday) - Chest
• Bench Press - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Incline Bench Press - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Decline Press - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Cable Crossovers – 5 sets of 8-12 reps (do not use 5x5 for this!)
OTHER CHEST EXERCISES INCLUDE: Dumbbell Bench Press, Incline Dumbbell Bench Press, Dumbbell Decline Bench Press, Dumbbell Flies, Pec Deck, Weighted Pushups, Wide Chest Press, Overhead extensions. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 4.

Day 2 (Tuesday) - Back
• Barbell Deadlift - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Lat Pulldown - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Seated Cable Row - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Dumbbell Rows - 5 set of 8-12 reps
OTHER BACK EXERCISES INCLUDE: Lower Back Extensions, Underhand High Cable Rows, Rack Pulls, Good-Mornings, Dumbbell Deadlifts, Close-Grip Pulldowns, or Barbell Rows. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 4.

Day 3 (Wednesday) – Legs
• Barbell Squats - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Seated Machine Leg Extensions - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Seated Machine Leg Curls - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Standing Calf Raises 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Seated Calf Raises 5 sets of 8-12 reps
OTHER LEGS EXERCISES INCLUDE: Dumbbell leg lunges, Leg Hip Abbduction Machine, Leg Hip Adduction Machine, Laying leg curls, Front Squats, 1 Leg Squats. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 5.

Day 4 (Thursday) - Shoulders
• Military Press - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Dumbbell Shoulder Presses - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Dumbbell Front Raises - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
OTHER SHOULDERS EXERCISES INCLUDE: Lateral Dumbbell Raises, Barbell Shrugs, Arnold Presses, Straight Bar Cable Pulldowns, Herculean Pulls. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 5.

Day 5 (Friday) - Arms
• EZ-Bar Curls - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Dumbbell Concentration Curls - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Olympic Bar Curls - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Weighted Dips - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Tricep Cable Pulldowns - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Dumbbell Tricep Kickbacks - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
OTHER ARMS EXERCISES INCLUDE: Preacher Curls, standing double curls, seated hammer curls, close-grip curls, EZ-bar 21's, skullcrushers, ez-bar tricep extensions, Rope Pulldowns, single handle reverse grip pulldowns, and close-grip bench press.

Day 6 – (Saturday) Rest
Day 7 – (Sunday) Rest
NOTE::: Every single day at the gym (5 days a week) you will be doing abs!! You will need to work into your schedule 100-200 reps of ab workout into 20-25 rep sets.
Ab exercises:
Crunches, Hanging Leg Raises, Broomstick Twists, Roman Chair Situps, V-Crunches, Decline Situps, & Knee Raises.


IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO A PARTICULAR EXERCISE MENTIONED ABOVE…GO TO THIS WEBSITE: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm
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Jan 25 2011 03:13am
Quote (AsianChexMix @ Jan 24 2011 02:56pm)
I just had some tests done at my local gym and one thing that stood out was according to their test, they said that my lean body mass was 223.4 lbs so the rest of my body is fat which creates a high BMI. I was wondering that if I do try to bulk up once I burn off a lot of this fat, what weight should I realistically be thinking of being at once I start bulking up? 223.4 lbs for lean body mass sounds like a lot. Is that a big number or is that really nothing compared to others?


223 is a very high lean body mass for most people. But it depends on your height, strength, bone density, frame, etc.

If you were to be in the 8-12% bf range and have 220 lbs of solid lean mass + another 17-27 lbs of fat, you'd look pretty damn good regardless of height (unless you were beastly tall - like 7ft ++ then it might not be sufficient).

either way, 223 lbs of lean mass is good no matter how you cut it.
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Jan 25 2011 03:21am
Quote (Hellzcom @ Jan 24 2011 05:43pm)
I recently looked for your help on your help thread in the health and fitness section.
I was wondering if you had time, you could help me plan a diet with variations so that its not the same thing day in and day out.
I mainly want it to be a cutting diet, and I've looked at the diet you have listed in this help thread.

But I was wondering if you could help me setup alternatives so I can change it up a little.

Example with help from what I have read off your help thread and am basing it off my schedule to see what you can help me with:

Morning:
-Wake up at 5:00.
-Have a Fat Burning Supplement within first 5-10 minutes of waking up.
-Wait 15-30 minutes after taking the supplement and have meal 1.
  -Meal 1 Options:
    -Alt 1: 4 whole eggs + 1 oz full fat cheese w/ 1/2 cup green peppers
    -Alt 2: ?
    -Alt 3: ? and anymore options if you can come up with them easily.
-Go to YMCA at 6:00.
-Do Cardio for 45 Minutes.
-Need help with this. I need to build up my knee strength. If i do intensive workouts they get really sore and I can barely walk.
-I have access to a pool, Bikes, Treadmills, Oscillators(if that's how its spelled), and a track at the Y. What water exercises would you recommend for cardio if you know any, and how long to match a 45-minute cardio workout. Also, how hard/long would I have to go on a bike to match a running cardio regime? Both of these options would be until I  have built up the knee strength, and yes i have seen a doctor/knee specialist about my knee problems and they don't know what the problem is.
-Leave Y around 7:00-7:15.
-Lounge about until 8:30.
-8:30 Eat Meal 2:
-Meal 2 Options:
  -Alt 1: 1 zero carb protein shake w/ 3 tbsp heavy cream
  -Alt 2: ? Even just a different additive to the shake.
  -Alt 3: ? Or anything else I could put here.
-8:45 get ready for work.
-9:30 Leave for work.
-10:00 Start work.
-11:30 Have Meal 3
-Meal 3 Options:
  -Alt 1: 1 salad with chicken breast and 2 tbsp olive oil + vinegar
  -Alt 2: ?? Something along those lines, but I don't cope well with olive oil or vinegar. Any alternatives?
  -Alt 3: or just any other alternatives to this meal.
-2:30 Meal 4.
-Meal 4 Options:
  -Alt 1: 1 can of tuna + 2 oz full fat cheese + 2-3 tbsp mayo + green veggies (celery, green pepper, etc)
  -Alt 2: Just another Alternative.
  -Alt 3: Ditto.
-5:30 Meal 5. ( Still at work).
-Meal 5 Options:
  -Alt 1: 6oz ground beef (80/20) with grated romano cheese, 4tbsp tomato sauce, and green veggies
  -Alt 2: Is there a way i can change the distances between meals? This meal I feel should be eaten at home.
  -Alt 3: Any.
-Home from work at 7-7:30.
-Go to the Y, Do Weights according to your workout plan. Or go out with friends. (I mainly want to lose weight, I don't care too much about building my strength.)
-8:30 Meal 6.
-Meal 6 options:
  -Alt 1: 1 cup cottage cheese + either 3tbsp heavy cream or 2tbsp olive oil w/ 8-10 almonds.
  -Alt 2: ?
  -Alt 3: ??

That is what I've come up with off your plan.
I have a couple problems I need help with.
1. With your plan, I have 3 meals during my work day. (Tue-Friday, Saturdays I only work 10-2.)
    -Is there anyway to fix this? especially with meal 5 being the biggest? I'd prefer to eat that at home.
2. Your diets always have cardio + muscle training. Is there away I can work smaller muscle training in without having to go to the gym everynight?
    -I'm not looking to muscle build. I just want to get down to a nice slimmer weight, and following your plan I would have no time for a social life.
3. What are all the supplements + Shakes you would recommend and where do i get them from? they are all confusing to me in your post you linked.
4. How could I go about learning what foods are alright to substitute into the diet that wont mess it up, and how to calculate my Caloric intake for the meal/day?
5. Any and all help would be appreciated. If you can help me, I will be coming into forum gold at the beginning of February from sales I'll be doing and I'd gladly donate to your cause.

Feel free to pm me with a reply to this. I tried pming this to you but your inbox is currently full.

Thanks,
-Tanner.



Hello.

Let me help you to help yourself with the diet portion.

For meal plans, they are all SUGGESTED but not required. You can make adjustments as needed. Just keep the calories/fat/protein in order and substitute anything you want.

Examples of the categories are as follows:

proteins: lean beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, other fish, lamb, ham, protein shake, cottage cheese, regular cheese, etc.

fats: peanut butter, other nut butter, olive oil, avocados, guacamole (made from avocados obviously), vegetable oil, butter, nuts, heavy cream, etc.


so get creative! for breakfast, instead of eggs you can make yourself some 0 carb turkey sausage with cheese...or maybe just have a protein shake with heavy cream. The choices are endless so keep an open mind!


1. There is no way to fix the meals. You will have to eat them while at work .Eating every 2-3 hours is instrumental in fat loss. Try to pack meals with you or bring easy to eat foods like hard boiled eggs, cheese sticks, nuts, etc.
2. If you don't really care about muscularity you can substitute cardio at home, as well as the bodyweight exercises I will post below:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=331731288
Bodyweight exercises


3. supplements are located here:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=342289401
Supplement Guide


4. to learn what foods are good and what aren't just READ THE LABELS and calculate everything based on the original numbers you need to hit. Or just got to this site for more help:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/


hope this helps you out! let me know if you have any further questions
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Jan 25 2011 09:22am
Hey, I have a question that is maybe a little different.

Is it possible to be naturally lighter or heavier than the average person of the same posture? Sometimes I feel like my weight is lower than that of other guys with the same posture. Strange or possible?

Thank you.

This post was edited by SeaBas on Jan 25 2011 09:22am
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Jan 25 2011 10:24am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Jan 25 2011 01:02am)
Definitely keep bulking. You are doing well but you still need to be packing on mass if your goal is to get into BBing.

See these:


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=321315004
5x5 plan

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=327158583
Hypertrophy Plan

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=335896241
Bulking Diet, workout, and supplement guide




I would avoid cutting right now, if you really want to...check this guide:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466
anabolic cutting diet


for the workout,


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=304396247
Cutting Workout Routine


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=330745031
Abs Workout Routine


Just re-arrange things to fit your 4-day structure accordingly.


I just really want to have an aesthetically pleasing body is what it comes down to.. So I think cutting would be my best option at this point
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