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Aug 16 2012 07:45am
Quote (Nevada @ Aug 15 2012 08:56pm)
Can't find the link of the same exact product.

It's "Personnelle Nutrium meal replacement vanilla shake"
On the box it's written
- Lactose free
- Gluten free


Gonna be long :(


235 ML per can
Energy - 250 cal
proteins - 9,4g
fat - 6,7g
satured 0.8g
trans 0 g
cholesterol 5 mg

Carboyhdrates 38 g
Sodium 250 mg
Potassium 375 mg


Ingredients
Water
Sugar
corn maltodextriin
milk protein concentrate
canola oil
soy protein isolate
corn oil
natural and artificial flavour
calcium-ciltrate malate
potassium phosphalte
salt
magnesium phosphalte
potassium citrate
carageeenan
sodium phosphate
soy lecithin
ascorbic acid
colour
ferric acetate
niaciinamide
vitamine A palmitate
manganese sulphate
cupric sulphate
calcium d panthothentate
vitamin d3
pyridoxine hydrochloride
thiamine hydrachlrodie
riboflavin
sodium molybdate
folic acid
potassium iodide
chromium chloride
biotin
sodium
selenite
cyanocabalamin

Contains, Milk, soy



That's what it says~
As you can tell, I am totally awful when it comes to counting stuff and numbers...I know sugar is listed as ingredient but theres sugar in so many stuff that it means nothing to me when I read this lol
*confuse*




That product is complete garbage. You can throw it in the trash or give it to a homeless shelter.

DO NOT drink that product. Besides all the added garbage, its got a horrible macro breakdown and uses SOY protein which is not good for men.

Avoid!
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Aug 16 2012 07:46am
Quote (xVanished @ Aug 15 2012 11:44pm)
Cool stuff, sounds great.
Was looking into getting the liquid stevia, although powder seems pretty cool too. I would believe there is no difference between the two correct? And pure, yes, always :)


The difference is in the refinement process. They are chemically similar but not the same.

NOW! brand and Stevia in the raw are both good. Purevia and Truevia I am skeptical about.
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Aug 16 2012 07:47am
Quote (Gutah @ Aug 16 2012 01:14am)
Yeah I'm using it for cutting.

I'm taking some creatine atm and only creatine; is it bad doing it on an empty stomach?

Would it be beneficial to take some fat burners while IF?

Also taking whey protein with water is good while cutting but when should i be taking it? After a meal or  before my first meal or after my last meal.
and my eating window is 12pm-5pm

Last question/favor.. Could you post me that link to the cutting routine workouts.. Had it saved on my profile but i erased it :Z..

Thanks




1. creatine is just fine on an empty stomach.
2. Yes, caffeine.
3. Whey protein POST workout and whenever else you need extra protein for your macros throughout the day.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=304396247
Cutting Workout Routine (6 day all equipment)
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Aug 16 2012 10:00am
hey raynor,

ive seen you suggest keto for many people

what are the benefits of keto over normal diet? why would i do it instead of eating normally?

thanks :)

This post was edited by potaa on Aug 16 2012 10:04am
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Aug 16 2012 11:36am
Hello again, Raynor.

So I just had a couple questions. I probably have the most fat on my body (or had the most fat ~2 months ago when I started working out) that I've had (I'm also the heaviest I've ever been, though I'm not really concerned about my overall weight). I had a few free personal training sessions at my gym, which I used to have a trainer show me proper form for various exercises, etc, and I had my body fat tested: I am 225 lbs with ~16% body fat.
Should I be cutting earlier in my diet or pushing more of my calories to protein?

Also, I'm not quite sure how or when cutting and bulking fit into various stages of exercise. I am looking to be more athletic, stronger (so some combination of power, strength, and endurance), and I would like to look "fit," just for my self-esteem and motivation.

I assume I will have to transition from hypertrophy to overall strength to power & endurance training and rotate through these as I lift weights and exercise. I guess my assumptions lead me to believe that I will be bulking during hypertrophy and strength training, and cutting during power, agility, and endurance training.
Are those assumptions correct?
How long would each of the typical phases last (ie. how long before I would go to cutting and power training)?
The main changes for my diet during cutting would be decreasing overall carbs and increasing protein, but maintaining a caloric intake near my BMR, right?

As far as supplements I am taking
Centrum - Men's Under 50 :: morning
Zinc (50mg) :: before bed
Magnesium (250mg) :: before bed
(I couldn't find a ZMA supplement without Calcium locally, and my understanding was that Calcium is a Zinc uptake inhibitor, so I bought them separately)
Glucosamine/Chondroitin :: before workout

I haven't been having any caffeine as I don't like the crash after (I understand that it aids in reducing muscular fatigue, but I assume it doesn't aid in muscular recovery--how much of a difference would I see in having caffeine before a workout? I hate coffee, and I don't want to have soda in my diet)
I haven't been taking creatine either--I planned on waiting to take it until I started to plateau, but do you think I should take it to start with?
Are there any other supplements I should take with my diet/workout plan?

Haha sorry about this excessive post. . . I thought I'd have like 2 questions. . . so last question:
I am about to start pharmacy school (2 weeks and 5 days). Do you have any suggestions for maintaining my workout schedule and fitness during the first year of graduate school? I don't want to see my (and your) efforts wasted, and I'm still sorta new to this (this is the first time in my life I've controlled my diet), and I don't want to be "too busy" to take care of my health.

Thank you for reading through all of that, as always.
I have our previous communication in this thread below.
Thank you,
Steven (Sven00100)

My previous posts:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&o=14407
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&o=14452

Your original plan to me:
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Jul 16 2012 05:28pm)
Hey there.

I'd be glad to help you.

First of all, let me try to itemize everything to avoid clutter:


1. Diet - given your height/weight and goals, I will be giving you this:


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=406743805
3,000 calorie diet w/ 40/40/20 macros



2. Vitamins - I would suggest taking the vitamins I illustrated previously. They will not hurt you, even in high concentrations. You would need to take obscene amounts of vitamins to have negative effects. As far as glucosamine, I would advise trying Universal Animal Flex which is a good joint support product with virtually everything you need in it, including glucosamine.


3. Workout - Given your current plan, I'd like you to move over to 5x5 training in order to build maximum strength.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=345300636
5x5 plan


After approximately 4-8 months of 5x5, you should have a good enough platform for which to move onto hypertrophy.

Furthermore, you don't need to actually do 1RM discovery of curls and other minor exercises. However, you can estimate your 1RM based on the rep weight you do.



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Aug 16 2012 12:14pm
Quote (potaa @ Aug 16 2012 12:00pm)
hey raynor,

ive seen you suggest keto for many people

what are the benefits of keto over normal diet? why would i do it instead of eating normally?

thanks :)



The keto diet offers a superior mechanism for cutting. If you are trying to lose body fat and preserve muscle, keto is the way to go. It is most efficient because it switches the body over to using fat as energy, and not glycogen. As a result, when you are not eating, your body is using body fat stores as energy.
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Aug 16 2012 12:23pm
Quote (sven00100 @ Aug 16 2012 01:36pm)
Hello again, Raynor.

So I just had a couple questions.  I probably have the most fat on my body (or had the most fat ~2 months ago when I started working out) that I've had (I'm also the heaviest I've ever been, though I'm not really concerned about my overall weight).  I had a few free personal training sessions at my gym, which I used to have a trainer show me proper form for various exercises, etc, and I had my body fat tested:  I am 225 lbs with ~16% body fat. 
Should I be cutting earlier in my diet or pushing more of my calories to protein?

Also, I'm not quite sure how or when cutting and bulking fit into various stages of exercise.  I am looking to be more athletic, stronger (so some combination of power, strength, and endurance), and I would like to look "fit," just for my self-esteem and motivation.

I assume I will have to transition from hypertrophy to overall strength to power & endurance training and rotate through these as I lift weights and exercise.  I guess my assumptions lead me to believe that I will be bulking during hypertrophy and strength training, and cutting during power, agility, and endurance training. 
Are those assumptions correct? 
How long would each of the typical phases last (ie. how long before I would go to cutting and power training)? 
The main changes for my diet during cutting would be decreasing overall carbs and increasing protein, but maintaining a caloric intake near my BMR, right?

As far as supplements I am taking
Centrum - Men's Under 50 :: morning
Zinc (50mg) :: before bed
Magnesium (250mg) :: before bed
(I couldn't find a ZMA supplement without Calcium locally, and my understanding was that Calcium is a Zinc uptake inhibitor, so I bought them separately)
Glucosamine/Chondroitin :: before workout

I haven't been having any caffeine as I don't like the crash after (I understand that it aids in reducing muscular fatigue, but I assume it doesn't aid in muscular recovery--how much of a difference would I see in having caffeine before a workout?  I hate coffee, and I don't want to have soda in my diet)
I haven't been taking creatine either--I planned on waiting to take it until I started to plateau, but do you think I should take it to start with?
Are there any other supplements I should take with my diet/workout plan?

Haha sorry about this excessive post. . . I thought I'd have like 2 questions. . . so last question:
I am about to start pharmacy school (2 weeks and 5 days).  Do you have any suggestions for maintaining my workout schedule and fitness during the first year of graduate school?  I don't want to see my (and your) efforts wasted, and I'm still sorta new to this (this is the first time in my life I've controlled my diet), and I don't want to be "too busy" to take care of my health.

Thank you for reading through all of that, as always.
I have our previous communication in this thread below.
Thank you,
Steven (Sven00100)

My previous posts:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&o=14407
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&o=14452

Your original plan to me:




1. At 16% bf, you can really go either way. 18% is the highest I would ever recommend you get before a mandatory cutting cylcle.

2. No, you do NOT train POWER during a cut, but rather endurance and muscle exhaustion. Power is left for strength training.

3. Bulking usually lasts around 8-10 months. Cutting usually lasts around 2-4 months.

4. Calories during a cut should be less than BMR, with lower carbs.

5. Get rid of centrum and purchase NOW! Adam or CL Orange Triad for the multi. They are superior in all ways.

6. You don't need caffeine, it's fine to go without it.

7. You should be taking creatine, try Kre Alkalyn. Take 2 pills pre workout and 2 pills post workout.

8. Do not forget to drink at least 1-1.5 gals of water per day.

9. With regard to your schedule, I would highly advise that you simply make your day very structured. IE: workout at 6am-7:15am mon-fri, and cardio on sat at 9:00am. Study from 9am-12pm mon-fri, and class from 12pm-6pm mon-fri, etc. Make sure everything is highly structured and you will be fine.

This post was edited by SKCRaynor on Aug 16 2012 12:24pm
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Aug 16 2012 02:59pm
I noticed on the black of my multi NOW adam that for each serving size ( 3 caps ), most of the nutrients are swinging over 100% of the daily needs. If I eat a balanced meal, Could I hypothetically take maybe 1-2 caps a day and still receive the benefits?
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Aug 16 2012 03:24pm
Quote (TheMagicFlightBox @ Aug 16 2012 04:59pm)
I noticed on the black of my multi NOW adam that for each serving size ( 3 caps ), most of the nutrients are swinging over 100% of the daily needs. If I eat a balanced meal, Could I hypothetically take maybe 1-2 caps a day and still receive the benefits?


No.

Those are FDA recommendations which are FAR below what you actually need and should have.
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Aug 16 2012 03:38pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Aug 16 2012 02:05am)
This is a very common problem. Here are a few tips:

1. Try the suicide grip (fingers not wrapped around the bar)

2. Back up on the bench more so that you can keep the wrists straight and in line naturally

3. Try some good gloves with wrist wraps, such as Harbingers.

4. Substitute Dumbbells for standard straight bar bench.


for those who dont know what the suicide grip is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSJCDcAKShA

This post was edited by Neptunus on Aug 16 2012 03:39pm
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