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Quote (ddevin @ 24 Aug 2018 12:12)
I think mq is predetermined at reroll stages. But who knows lol. All my 5 door passes have been random combos I would personally never go lol. 52431/ 25143 stuff like that. I havent opened a 12345 yet. And I havent opened a door on any of my alchy attempts. I think the 2 door mq change is a great way to get the ladder started and for new players to progress to different chars. That's one of the reason I said no, sorry should.of elaborated more.


123456 has given me every pass Ive ever had on HC :)

I would imagine the key order is either determined upon reroll or clicking attempt on the MQ itself.
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Opening any door is completely random, and could probably be based upon
how many rare Astatine-24 molecules are having conjugal sex
with a hot hydrogen molecule at the sun's core at any particular moment
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Quote (ddevin @ 24 Aug 2018 20:12)
I think mq is predetermined at reroll stages. But who knows lol. All my 5 door passes have been random combos I would personally never go lol. 52431/ 25143 stuff like that. I havent opened a 12345 yet. And I havent opened a door on any of my alchy attempts. I think the 2 door mq change is a great way to get the ladder started and for new players to progress to different chars. That's one of the reason I said no, sorry should.of elaborated more.


Yeah but that doesn't really affect the combo you choose at 71. Since it's a new random combo every time you have the same odds of passing using the same every time or using a different one every time :P

Quote (Paparick @ 24 Aug 2018 20:38)
Opening any door is completely random, and could probably be based upon
how many rare Astatine-24 molecules are having conjugal sex
with a hot hydrogen molecule at the sun's core at any particular moment


Do they not want to be disturbed while having sex thus they blow the door up in your face making you fail the MQ? :rofl:
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Quote (SCXiao @ 24 Aug 2018 14:05)
Yeah but that doesn't really affect the combo you choose at 71. Since it's a new random combo every time you have the same odds of passing using the same every time or using a different one every time :P



Do they not want to be disturbed while having sex thus they blow the door up in your face making you fail the MQ? :rofl:



Does it affect mqs done on classes that must go higher than 71? ;)

Also I would not blame them for blowin shit up if you cockblock them ;)

This post was edited by Cheeya on Aug 24 2018 02:15pm
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Quote (ddevin @ Aug 25 2018 03:40am)
Voted no.

I understand people get stuck on one class. But I also think it's stupid when people do the same key combo 100 times and expect to pass lol.

Class order are designed so you have to swap gear/require specific items. I think messing with that alagarithm is detrimental to the game.


I only use one code... got annoyed with it not so long ago... 3 times consecutively, the combo was 213, but I prefer 231.

Anyway, it does NOT pre pick the order when you press Attempt to MQ. It is all random with each key selection. example, 4 key selection would be 25% chance, then 33% chance, then 50% chance and of course 100%

EDIT: each key passed, re rolls a random number for the next selection

Quote (McDavid @ Aug 25 2018 09:39am)
And your proof is:_____________________


:rofl: I don't have any, but I asked and posted about this like 8 years ago, and got an answer from 1 person that cleared up my issues... 8 years is a long time to go back to. Oh, if you wanted proof of my 3 consecutive 2df's, guild chat of course, oh, and since the 2 key feature was applied, passed 2 feeders already, picking key 2. kinda find passing feeder as boring feature of game, may as well have samurai a feeder.
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A 4 key selection will ALWAYS have:

25% chance to get first key correct
33% chance to get second key correct
50% chance to get third key correct
Blah

Even if I am incorrect, those odds don't change... talk about funny business... I think I go gamble now

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Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 24 2018 03:38pm)
I only use one code... got annoyed with it not so long ago... 3 times consecutively, the combo was 213, but I prefer 231.

Anyway, it does NOT pre pick the order when you press Attempt to MQ. It is all random with each key selection. example, 4 key selection would be 25% chance, then 33% chance, then 50% chance and of course 100%


And your proof is:_____________________
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xxx srry dble post xxx

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 24 2018 02:45pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 24 2018 04:38pm)

Anyway, it does NOT pre pick the order when you press Attempt to MQ. It is all random with each key selection. example, 4 key selection would be 25% chance, then 33% chance, then 50% chance and of course 100%
EDIT: each key passed, re rolls a random number for the next selection


the only one who could know how the doors are picked is paul. it's done on the server and we've just had 2 rewrites

you send a "key". the server sends if the door opens or not.
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 24 2018 03:38pm)
I only use one code... got annoyed with it not so long ago... 3 times consecutively, the combo was 213, but I prefer 231.

Anyway, it does NOT pre pick the order when you press Attempt to MQ. It is all random with each key selection. example, 4 key selection would be 25% chance, then 33% chance, then 50% chance and of course 100%

EDIT: each key passed, re rolls a random number for the next selection



:rofl: I don't have any, but I asked and posted about this like 8 years ago, and got an answer from 1 person that cleared up my issues... 8 years is a long time to go back to. Oh, if you wanted proof of my 3 consecutive 2df's, guild chat of course, oh, and since the 2 key feature was applied, passed 2 feeders already, picking key 2. kinda find passing feeder as boring feature of game, may as well have samurai a feeder.
__________________

A 4 key selection will ALWAYS have:

25% chance to get first key correct
33% chance to get second key correct
50% chance to get third key correct
Blah

Even if I am incorrect, those odds don't change... talk about funny business... I think I go gamble now


I just.. don't even
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Quote (McDavid @ Aug 25 2018 10:02am)
I just.. don't even


Don't worry, I like fishing ... at times I get a good bite or more because of the bait I use.

Following is hypothetical, but, could (keyword: could) effectively prove my point:

Each time you open a door (walk down the corridor), the random key generator is selecting the next key.
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As for coding jsp, I believe many people have had a hand in things... :D
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