Quote (Melatonina @ Aug 15 2019 09:25am)

Gotcha bro, a virgin could also believe sex is hearsay.

"atm" why are you so lazy and dont wanna verify by yourself like you always say we should think for ourselves ?
dont wanna get proven wrong I think :p b) XD

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 15 2019 02:57pm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI1fn4ETGXY

Please take special note about how this guy submits his documented evidence including all citation information for each point.
There is no hearsay or speculation here, just facts in black and white.

I'll wait for your rebuttal, hopefully it won't be hearsay or opinion.

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 14 2019 04:08pm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzMhAch99JM

Oh look, your scientism elder who you worship is even revealing the FE truth in plain sight, but you still deny it.
I can't help you, if you refuse to acknowledge the truth.

Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 14 2019 11:48pm)

I have an even better one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yefscjx9EFY

NDT apparently knows the earth is flat saying "That stuff is flat"
(GE'ers you'll see where I'm going with this)

Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 15 2019 11:50pm)

lets go back a bit


You posted this


I answered this

Here's a another FE argument using NDT's statement "That stuff is flat"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-f63VAwZpo&lc=z23he1ypnqymyj3ri04t1aokgpni3ldccqen4i2nsrpwbk0h00410.1565863039011805

However here's the full video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FMGTVCIDbU

If you watch from 33 mins where NDT shows scale between earth and Moon its clear he was talking about the GE model
(Note: I am not presenting this as proof the earth is globe, just what NDT meant)

When he said "That stuff is flat" he meant the view of the horizon not the whole earth like FE'ers are saying

And here is one reason why FE vids generally lack credibility .
They take a small part of the big picture like I just showed you and present it as evidence when the full picture says something else

(As far as the curvature and this "CIA" vid is concerned - slide 2)
if you take a camera and look close up to a ball the surface you see looks flatter the bigger the ball . Try it your self

Now the GE is believed to be 12 742km or 7917.5 miles.

So if the earth was flat of cause a flat horizon is obvious
However if the earth was a glove flying at 11miles is not high enough to see the curve. You're flying ~1/1000 the diameter of the earth high and are thus only seeing a tiny section of the curve
like the camera to ball experiment and also what NDT was getting at saying "This Stuff is flat"

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 16 2019 03:30am)

grab a really large beach ball or those yoga exercise balls, the big ones.
now hold it up in front of ur face, just below ur nose.
look straight out ahead so u are eye level with the top part of the ball. make sure a white wall or similar is in the background (further off in front of you)
now very slowly, just move the ball down an inch or two. tell me what happens.

Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 16 2019 01:14pm)

Ok took one just under a meter and a beach ball about 1/2 a meter

Surface appeared flat for both before dropping
After dropping you can see a slight curve in both but the 1m exercice ball is flatter (similar to what I said)

Now if we the globe earth diameter if 12713 km, felix took a jump if 39km high which is 0.003 the distance of the GE diameter if you work it out

Back to the exercise ball (using the same ratio) 0.003 of 1 meter is 3mm or 0.12 inches
You drop the ball that distance it still appears flat

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 16 2019 05:59am)

i'm talking about the ball surface edge. notice how the "horizon" drops suddenly and u only see the white wall in your straight ahead eye level position.
do this several times with the ball until you finally "get it"
This simply doesn't work in real life whenu hop into a hot air balloon and go up, the horizon ALWAYS raises to meet your eye level because the earth is flat.
A sphere or ball surface by definition is always moving DOWN and away from the observer standing on it. It doesn't matter how BIG the ball is, the sphereical geometry formula doesn't change. the curvature (or what you think is the horizon) will always drop away when ascending from a sphere.

Please don't reply with an intellectually dishonest answer. Just be truthful without twisting words or deflecting.

Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 16 2019 02:06pm)

Quite hypocritical since you do the same
I was taking about about the curvature or lack there off as per your vid

But anyway, Given the size of the ball I dont doubt the horizon drops and do see it dropping I drop 1 to 2 inches like you said

With a Hot air balloon rising I have my doubts to your claim but lets give you the benifit of the doubt

Now, how high do hot air balloons fly on average?
Say 3 to 5 km?

Need this info for my answer to your post