Quote (death_knight @ Feb 8 2021 01:54am)

Lol you really are a zealot

Ps it's not a debate when your only reference is a fairytale and your so blind that you won't even consider the alternative

You can almost be classified as having psychosis and/or schizophrenia because your view of the world is not reality

I've read many doctrines and some of the shit you spewed is an incorrect translation


And finally it's a laugh you say that I swap truth for lies

Don't feel bad though, your one step behind the Muslims for fanaticism ask them how they know Islam is right


Lol..

Quote (CPK001 @ 8 Feb 2021 02:03)

If you want to go down that path, you do not do Ps the second line of your post. That's called POST Script for a reason. My ONLY reference is a fairytale you say?

Then explain to me this post where I have 6 different references at the end? [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=525625079]https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=525625079[/URL]
Even if the pictures are no longer there, I still went out and did my research. [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=531333715]https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=531333715[/URL]
What about this one? [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75028490&f=119&p=507734451]https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75028490&f=119&p=507734451[/URL]

Unlike you, I actually do my research and with different sites. What I post is based on extensive research. Your second line Ps is invalidated.

Following on from that, since you based your entire presumption on your second line Ps, the rest of what you say has also been invalidated.

Unfortunately for you, you are basing your entire presumptions on lack of research. All I had to do was link you to posts where I didn't have the only reference as a fairytale.

Don't feel bad though, you are simply part of a long list of people who have fallen before my sound and logical arguments.

Lol.

Quote (Pharaohmon @ Feb 8 2021 05:20am)

Bumplul

Quote (death_knight @ Feb 9 2021 05:46am)

Alright I'll entertain your research, but first you must realize that I base my religious views on my experience only and even that is subject to misinterpretation.. if God approaches name now there is still the possibility that I'm either crazy, being deceived or maybe God is just another ant and he doesn't even know it, objectively this is possible so if we are to have a logical scientific debate you must address these "concerns" right?

Furthermore to classify me as the rest is poor judgment, there are far fewer agnostics (and vegan) in the world than folk such as yourself, I challenge you to remove bias and answer accordingly

Quote (CPK001 @ 9 Feb 2021 01:36)

I'm guessing the first question you have on your mind is "Can you really trust God and The Bible?"

Let's explore that.

We shall start with Genesis 3:1-13.

Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.

He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” 2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” 4 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.

8 And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man and said to him, “Where are you?” 10 And he said, “I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself.” 11 He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” 12 The man said, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate.” 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this that you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

This is the first record of God's word and trust being questioned. The serpent made it out to be that God was holding back all the good things and that He was lying. "You will not surely die." It turns out that the serpent was the one who was being deceptive and not God.

That is the first thing you will read when I posted about this very thing here: [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66318140&f=125&p=444305926]https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66318140&f=125&p=444305926[/URL]

You will find that I have posted a lot of articles on these various subjects. Some of the articles are based on Sunday Sermons while others are based on websites that I have researched. Every time I had a question then it was satisfactorily answered.

Quote (death_knight @ Feb 10 2021 03:31am)

Ok continue with God's word being questioned; what did God have to say in his defense? After all it would seem that the serpent has some power.. surely God in his wisdom (and power) could have prevented the whole ordeal

In other words, in many religions there is one if not many "evil" entities that are always at conflict with "good / God" yet the good guys never seem to win because obviously there is much evil in the world

For God to have allowed this invalidates many qualities of God such as

1) is he really omnipresent
2) is he really all knowing
3) is his power limited and how did he acquire it
4) is he really immortal

It strikes me odd that over half of humans are religious, this would imply there was some notable widespread events that did really happen but was is the true God? I'm not convinced

Which leads to another point, the religions of Abraham are relatively new compared to others such as Hinduism, if I am to examine your texts surely those that came before (of any record) are equally worth study