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Oct 1 2024 02:11pm
The rules are here: https://forums.d2jsp.org/info.php?p=6

They clearly state that an "early bump" means "Posting 2 back-to-back posts in one thread before 4 hours."

However, the moderator team closes threads when the original poster posts more than two times in four hours, regardless of the "back to back" requirement. This is both confusing and hurts users who actually try to follow the rules.

In order of best to worst, I suggest:
1. The moderator team is retrained and follows the current rule as written.
2. The rule is rewritten and "back to back" is removed, so the enforcement and written rules actually match.
3. The flood delay on reporting threads is released so you can actually report more than 4-5 at a time. >75% of ALL threads with a buyer responding end up violating this rule, so it's not possible to report them as the moderator team helpfully suggests.


If it would help, I can easily find 50-100 sample threads that violate this rule in the D2R ladder forum from within the last 1-2 hours alone. No one follows this rule, it's not enforced consistently, and the people who suffer are the people who actually try to follow the rules. Please fix it!
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Oct 1 2024 02:41pm
They are called rules but are actually more like guidelines, we should follow them but not be too serious about it...
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Oct 2 2024 08:24am
It has been a problem for decades.
Not sure what kind of "fix" you're looking for.

You'd also be surprised how many people don't understand the rule.
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Oct 2 2024 09:38am
The Early Bump Rule is simple. I do not see it being changed.

Let me use myself as an example and explain it in detail.

Let's say I make a Topic for 10 Ber Runes @ 50fg each on 10/2/2024 @ 10AM. Obviously, the next time I can Bump my Topic is at 2PM. However, let's say someone comes in @ 10:30AM and post "Bin 1x Ber Rune" that 4 Hour Bump timer is now reset which means I, as the OP cannot Bump my Topic till 2:30PM.

If I quote Post #2 and say PM'd, t4t etc that's considered EB #1.

Again, someone comes in at 11:15AM and bins another Ber the cycle repeats. The Bump timer is reset and I, as the OP cannot Bump my Topic till 3:15PM. If I reply at 11:21AM and again say t4t etc that's EB #2 and so on.

YOU as the OP can only Bump your Topic EVERY 4 Hours since the last Post in your Topic. If you have multiple items for trade and multiple users post to bin, you can quote all those users are the same time and say "t4t" etc if you wish @ the 4 Hour Bump time.

Hope that helps understanding that Rule.
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Oct 2 2024 10:11am
Quote (Southland @ Oct 2 2024 11:38am)
The Early Bump Rule is simple. I do not see it being changed.

Let me use myself as an example and explain it in detail.

Let's say I make a Topic for 10 Ber Runes @ 50fg each on 10/2/2024 @ 10AM. Obviously, the next time I can Bump my Topic is at 2PM. However, let's say someone comes in @ 10:30AM and post "Bin 1x Ber Rune" that 4 Hour Bump timer is now reset which means I, as the OP cannot Bump my Topic till 2:30PM.

If I quote Post #2 and say PM'd, t4t etc that's considered EB #1.

Again, someone comes in at 11:15AM and bins another Ber the cycle repeats. The Bump timer is reset and I, as the OP cannot Bump my Topic till 3:15PM. If I reply at 11:21AM and again say t4t etc that's EB #2 and so on.

YOU as the OP can only Bump your Topic EVERY 4 Hours since the last Post in your Topic. If you have multiple items for trade and multiple users post to bin, you can quote all those users are the same time and say "t4t" etc if you wish @ the 4 Hour Bump time.

Hope that helps understanding that Rule.


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The quickest and simplest way to track it is to just make sure the bump button is available at the top right corner of your thread.



Once the above message disappears and your "Bump" button appears you are good to post. You'll notice that ANY post in your thread resets that timer to 4 hours(Technically 3 hours 59 minutes).

As far as reporting and flood control is concerned. You only need to report one of the early bumps in the thread. Our staff will review the thread in its entirety and check for early bumps throughout. If you are still running into flood control please gather all of the links for the violations and PM them to a staff member that oversees that area. If it's a trade section it will likely be a Trade Assistant or Trade Moderator. Additionally, remember that just because you don't see any action taken due to your report, that doesn't mean nothing was done.

If you have any problems with threads of yours that were closed, you can PM a Trade Moderator for clarification. They can provide an answer or direct you to someone on the staff team that can.

Quote (mikacz @ Oct 1 2024 04:41pm)
They are called rules but are actually more like guidelines, we should follow them but not be too serious about it...

No, the rules are rule, not guidelines. Please follow them, seriously.
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