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Jun 5 2022 11:09am
Quote (drummer1993 @ Jun 5 2022 10:53am)
Ultimately the obsession with trying to hide the DClone walk from people who didn't donate was the downfall and cause of this whole thing. Following an updated mechanic in D2R that makes the DCone available to everyone on that realm - slightly counter-intuitive. It's almost 1 step forward 2 steps back.

As mentioned trying to "hide" the DClone walk by delaying the stream, saying "ops almost logged into the wrong realm - hehe", attempting to use 'sleight of hand' swapping to EU then spamming into the stream its "ITS EU, ITS EU, ITS EU" by which would be too late to swap realm as everyone had already loaded up in Asia as a result of the stream delay. Meant people not informed prior would miss the walk.

This also relates to the speed at which he sold the SoJs, unlike someone like MrLlamasc who made an event from spawning DClone, taking his time to sell them and enjoying the whole community lead event. Spam selling the SoJ's meant he could spawn Diablo BEFORE people had realised, combined with the stream delay and intentional misinformation.

My opinion would be:
1. If streaming the event on a community lead platform (Twitch), involve the community...

2. Otherwise, collect the SoJs in private (obviously announcing in public you are collecting them for a private DClone event), create a private group of the people that donated and organise to spawn DClone without involving the community. Meaning the only people who could obtain Anni's without donating and SoJ would be the unsuspected players at the time on whatever realm.

3. Floor control is not a valid excuse

#DramaAlertNation

For context I wasn't involved in the DClone event. Assumptions made post-event after watching the stream highlights and reading around the issue on JSP and Discord.



Best response in this thread, bravo.
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Jun 5 2022 11:11am
I don’t see why this is so complicated. If you don’t like the way this particular person organizes walks, then don’t donate sojs to them.

If you donated and were excluded, get your entry fee back. It’s really very simple.
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Jun 5 2022 11:17am
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Jun 5 2022 11:27am
- That was a terrible dclone host.
- Then host yourself.
- Me??

Quote (drummer1993 @ Jun 5 2022 07:53pm)
then spamming into the stream its "ITS EU, ITS EU, ITS EU" by which would be too late to swap realm as everyone had already loaded up in Asia as a result of the stream delay


Wrong. Got no issues switching into EU after this announcement, even waited more after that. Stream delay was 5 sec max.
If you load 40 windows - well, gl abusing the system somewhere else.
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Jun 5 2022 12:01pm
Quote (Vitalidze @ 5 Jun 2022 13:27)
Wrong. Got no issues switching into EU after this announcement, even waited more after that. Stream delay was 5 sec max.
If you load 40 windows - well, gl abusing the system somewhere else.


Truth, my friend swapped to EU right away during the stream with extra time to spare. This mostly affected ppl who had multiple clients.

Set out the rules e.g. Announce the walk's date and time ahead of time but will announce the realm live last minute via discord with 1 minute to log in. Normal players are guaranteed to get minimum 1 anni and multi sellers can't profit aka the anni cartel will get mad.

#annigate
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Jun 5 2022 12:04pm
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Jun 5 2022 12:07pm
Nice one Meph



This post was edited by DIABLOSRSGOD on Jun 5 2022 12:08pm
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Jun 5 2022 12:46pm
Quote (Skibbysback @ Jun 5 2022 11:49am)
Can’t wait until the organized public walks happen. I will donate to every one just see you people cry about “EvErY oNe GeTtING oNE”


This was public all you had to do was be there at 8pm pst like he said I got in just fine after seeing this post that was posted publicly for all to see. The only thing SoJ contributors got was the information before 8pm so they could be more prepared. Even if someone missed the message he sent all they had to do was be ready at 8pm and get the info. No way you could load 40 clients at that time but I see that as a win.
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Jun 5 2022 12:59pm
Quote (Ibubbas @ Jun 5 2022 12:46pm)
This was public all you had to do was be there at 8pm pst like he said I got in just fine after seeing this post that was posted publicly for all to see. The only thing SoJ contributors got was the information before 8pm so they could be more prepared. Even if someone missed the message he sent all they had to do was be ready at 8pm and get the info. No way you could load 40 clients at that time but I see that as a win.[/QU
I got two of them just fine as well idk wtf your going on about. He kept the date secret from the public and then switched servers last minute because “info was leaked” yeah seems super public to me lol. I’m talking about the guys that are starting to organize runs and be 100% transparent with the date and time to everybody not just contributors.
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