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Mar 3 2022 09:03pm
Massive duping is going on and it's as easy as force quitting the game.

These sellers aren't losing anything while taking your hard earned FG.
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Mar 4 2022 01:07am
Someone jelly
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Mar 4 2022 09:14am
Someones a dishonest trader.
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Mar 4 2022 11:11am
In all honesty at this point in soulsborne history this dupe method is basically a feature at this point.

While its frowned upon its also widely used!

If people want to pay for the convenience of this service... i dont personally see an issue
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Mar 4 2022 11:16am
Quote (zNick @ Mar 4 2022 11:11am)
In all honesty at this point in soulsborne history this dupe method is basically a feature at this point.

While its frowned upon its also widely used!

If people want to pay for the convenience of this service... i dont personally see an issue


While true it's dishonest to price stuff at 1.5k+ fg that cost you nothing in reality.

If you want to call it a service then price it as such. Don't pretend you aren't just duping and losing nothing while charging $50+ in fg for items.
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Mar 4 2022 11:50am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Mar 4 2022 11:16am)
While true it's dishonest to price stuff at 1.5k+ fg that cost you nothing in reality.

If you want to call it a service then price it as such. Don't pretend you aren't just duping and losing nothing while charging $50+ in fg for items.


People will pay what they want, who cares if the other person doesn't lose it or acquires it easily? It's just like any other service in any other game.

Take Hero Siege for example, I made thousands there for something that costs me nothing because I know how to do something specific in that game. Or Path of Exile, I know how to craft in such a way that creates items for almost no currency and make massive currency on it. I do it every season.

The price an item has to one person is not the same price as what another person is willing to pay. If 5k fg helps someone do something in the game and they want it, they will pay it. You coming here basically being a child on a forum made for these exact exchanges just seems small.

This is a single player game with limited multiplayer support. On PC duping is as easy as just making a back up of your save file. On the console, there are people out there who know how to extract the save file with a modded console and give themselves millions of runes or any item in the game and load that up. Does that de-value the item? No. Because how easy it is to acquire an item for one person does not mean it is easy to another or that they are willing to take that risk themselves of a banned console, banned account, etc. Receiving an item in such a way does not flag your account, only creating the item and even that was removed back in Dark Souls 3 where From Soft allowed item creation / duping.

It's hilarious that such a basic economics topic needs to be said in a trading forum. An item is worth whatever the other party is willing to pay for it. The method of how the other person acquired the item or how much they paid is irrelevant or if they even lose said item in the end is also irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that the person who purchased the item has it in their possession by the end of the transaction.
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Mar 4 2022 11:52am
Quote (Zepal @ Mar 4 2022 11:50am)
People will pay what they want, who cares if the other person doesn't lose it or acquires it easily? It's just like any other service in any other game.

Take Hero Siege for example, I made thousands there for something that costs me nothing because I know how to do something specific in that game. Or Path of Exile, I know how to craft in such a way that creates items for almost no currency and make massive currency on it. I do it every season.

The price an item has to one person is not the same price as what another person is willing to pay. If 5k fg helps someone do something in the game and they want it, they will pay it. You coming here basically being a child on a forum made for these exact exchanges just seems small.

This is a single player game with limited multiplayer support. On PC duping is as easy as just making a back up of your save file. On the console, there are people out there who know how to extract the save file with a modded console and give themselves millions of runes or any item in the game and load that up. Does that de-value the item? No. Because how easy it is to acquire an item for one person does not mean it is easy to another or that they are willing to take that risk themselves of a banned console, banned account, etc. Receiving an item in such a way does not flag your account, only creating the item and even that was removed back in Dark Souls 3 where From Soft allowed item creation / duping.

It's hilarious that such a basic economics topic needs to be said in a trading forum. An item is worth whatever the other party is willing to pay for it. The method of how the other person acquired the item or how much they paid is irrelevant or if they even lose said item in the end is also irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that the person who purchased the item has it in their possession by the end of the transaction.


You by site rules have to inform buyers of duped items sir.
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Mar 4 2022 11:54am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Mar 4 2022 12:16pm)
While true it's dishonest to price stuff at 1.5k+ fg that cost you nothing in reality.

If you want to call it a service then price it as such. Don't pretend you aren't just duping and losing nothing while charging $50+ in fg for items.


I agree there should be caution as to the pricing of this service to avoid people being taken advantage of. 100%

I could see +25 weapons being costly in respect to legit upgrading required.


But basic rune/ base item duping should be cautioned and not expensive

This post was edited by zNick on Mar 4 2022 11:56am
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Mar 4 2022 11:55am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Mar 4 2022 11:52am)
You by site rules have to inform buyers of duped items sir.


But they're not duped, and that rule was made specifically for Diablo 2 in a time where said items would disappear if you did not perm in a game. The item itself is still a unique item, therefore not duped by the conventional meaning of the word. I just reload my save file from before the trade was done.

The rule was made entirely for that purpose, someone with an account from 2005 should know this and not attempt to twist a site rule in such a way that it goes against its original purpose.

Edit: Correction - that site rule was removed and placed specifically in the Diablo 2 sub category now. More proof to my point.

This post was edited by Zepal on Mar 4 2022 11:57am
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Quote (Zepal @ Mar 4 2022 11:55am)
But they're not duped, and that rule was made specifically for Diablo 2 in a time where said items would disappear if you did not perm in a game. The item itself is still a unique item, therefore not duped by the conventional meaning of the word. I just reload my save file from before the trade was done.

The rule was made entirely for that purpose, someone with an account from 2005 should know this and not attempt to twist a site rule in such a way that it goes against its original purpose.


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=56563689&f=208 rules for this subforum

https://forums.d2jsp.org/info.php?p=6 trade rules

"Do not use false advertising to describe an item. For example, if an item is a common dupe and is being sold in mass, it cannot be described as legit/perm/whatever else you may use to imply the same meaning."

Meaning you must disclose if an item is duped or a dupe method is used.
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