Should've traded him to tampa for Foote or something.

Oh well let's pray Shaw can make this work and hope poolman meshes well with OEL

How sick would it be if benning caved in and signed tryamkin to 2mil deal. Apparently the rumor is his camp wanted 2mil but Benning was firm at 1.6m. I mean the roster is completely different prior to when they were in talks but still QQ

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If this is true everyone should be calling for his head.

Majority of the fans were actually on Benning's side for this one. They felt tryamkin is depth player at best, dramaqueen etc. Doesn't deserve 2m and was only worth 1m to 1.5m on a year deal. (this was when reg season just ended for the Canucks)

I feel like he would be a great top 4 and mesh well with Hughes. Figured 2m is a very fair deal since tryamkin got screwed the year prior by waiting for Benning to try make room for him. Unfortunately he wasn't able to, and tryamkin lost out on a lot of money by re-signing with his KHL team at a huge discount for the year cuz they already spent majority of their budget. So I can see why he decided to just stay and sign term in the KHL when negotiations were difficult. Of course now, it looks worse because the demands for RHD big shutdown guys were high in demand, and considering poolman got 2.5m and others around that price or more as well.

Tyramkin @ 2 mil would be a high asking price based on what he has done, however I still feel due to his physical presence he would be worth a 2m risk if it was only a one year deal. The potential to be valuable at 2 million was there and if things panned out we would be looking at a key piece of the D-core.

Should have went for it imo, but I can see why they walked away.

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Yeah exactly my thoughts too, also he was playing almost 20+min in KHL as a top 4 role to further develop his game. However the situation was completely different soon as season ended and what Benning did to re allocate his roster a week ago. He definitely worked long hours to make it happen, now the team looks better on paper with highest paid players being top 6 and bottom 6 in a more affordable deal. Had KHL season ended much later than NHL and he was looking for an opportunity couple weeks ago, I think Benning would've tried it out for 2m.

Also this is a pretty good write up from some rando reddit user for poolman. https://www.reddit.com/r/canucks/comments/ow2c8e/a_deep_dive_on_tucker_poolman/

Morrissey is one of the most over rated d man in the league, so I think Benning and his staff are banking on poolman to be of great help for OEL and vice versa. Let's hope it works out cuz even if data and scouting makes sense, it doesn't always work out irl til u actually see what happens on ice.

idk I looked up Jets fan reactions to losing Poolman and most of them think he made Morrisey a worse player and wouldn't touch him with such a contract. FWIW Benning pretty much always whiffs miserably with these contracts but this is the first time I actually see the analytics back it up so maybe it's not doomed just yet.

I'm willing to give both OEL and Poolman the benefit of the doubt, but I don't know how (unless you're just a homer) you can be overly optimistic about this defense.

The thing is that we pretty much need them to fire on all cylinders, need everyone to have a good year. I don't know how realistic that is.

- Hughes needs to be better defensively
- OEL needs to rejuvenate his career overall
- Myers and Hamonic need to be strong, consistent, top-4 studs
- Rathbone or Juolevi needs to show he's a legit NHLer
- Poolman needs probably carry a bottom pairing unless he's Hughes' partner on the 2nd pair

It's just asking a lot. One good thing is that this forward group is better, especially defensively. I think it's been underreported how incredibly soft and incompetent defensively the forward group has been.

This post was edited by LuLer on Aug 2 2021 02:09pm

I am optimistic overall.

So many Canucks had a lousy season. The likelihood of players performing better than last season is higher than a further decline.

With an improved 3rd line I think we will see two lines that can score coupled with being able to hold their own defensively. Horvat and his line mates should be able to get a break from playing just shut down roles.


I think the X-factor for the forward group is Petey staying healthy. Either he breaks out this year and has his finest season yet or is plagued by more injuries which will set himself and the rest of the Canuck forwards back.

I agree with you that the forward group looks considerably better on paper. First two lines can put up points and do well defensively, the third line looks like it will be a nasty line to play against with tons of grit and the fourth line should be more reliable.


Demko is a beast obviously.


I think even if the defense works out to be just be at the bottom of the average range this team makes the playoffs.

I think we'll make the playoffs as well.

As much as a lot would have to go right for us to be a legit contender, lots would have to go wrong for us to miss the playoffs. Weak div helps, too.

Last season, our top 6 was basically boeser, Miller, horvat, Hoglander, Pearson, and virtnanen (minus Petey) garland is around 60+ pt player with the yotes. He found most success in 5v5 in a defensive minded team with the yotes, greens yolo system should help him further with better linemates around him as well.

Bottom 6 was basically Sutter & beagle, motte(injured) bunch of waived scraps from leafs and ahlers/fringe nhlers. Gaudette was useless, he gets you pointless points and doesn't really provide much difference for the game. Our bottom 6 is legit now with Dickinson, Pearson and or hogs, Podkolzin, Sutter, motte and highmore.

Upfront alone improved tremendously, assuming everybody stays healthy majority of the season, I don't think canucks will have an issue scoring 4+ goals a game. We somehow managed like 3+ on average with shit roster last season, although playing against Canadian teams helped with that.

Demko and halak is a good duo, I'm concerned that halak has to learn/adjust habits on how pacific/western players shoot etc. However Clark apparently wanted him as back up and halak has been a solid backup for years. Whereas Holtby was a starter and now trying to adjust as a backup role if not trying to stay in the NHL.

The big question mark comes from the backend, losing edler's 2 way game is huge considering he was our solid defensive and all around dman. However, his legs can't keep up to play top 4 role, and he'd be a premium 3rd pairing lhd now. OEL won't have problems getting 40 to 50pts but our biggest need is defensive plays from our dman rather than point output. Hopefully he and poolman clicks and have solid chemistry. Aquiring oel is huge for Hughes because he will share the pressure from other teams with oel.

Basically the Canucks improved no matter how you look at the team, it's matter of how much did they improve.