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Feb 18 2022 11:59am
Giroux to flames make it happen
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Feb 18 2022 12:02pm
Quote (Chadzle @ Feb 18 2022 12:35pm)
Flyers need to eat half his salary AND another team needs to eat half of that salary to fit onto most teams, (hearing top 3 are wild , Blues, avs)

Has nothing todo with Flyers not being able to eat enough of his salary

I'd much prefer JTM over giroux. Even if the price is crazy. Extra year + gg cap. Would fit perfectly next year losing Kadri


if the flyers have a 2nd team to eat 2m and can trade giroux at 2m im pretty sure 20 teams in he league would be interested in him
that doesnt seem very realistic if you need that to fit him on your team its likely not happening its more likely u ship us a roster player with assets and flyers eat half his salary

and yea lots of teams want JTM but with boeser going to have a 7.5m qualifying offer it sounds like the canucks are more focused on trading him cause they dont want to pay that and dealing with JTM in the offseason/next season he might not even be traded this season

if the avs trade something i see is maybe like giroux 50% for JTC+barron+pick and the avs gotta clear up like 700k to make it fit or something

Quote (Toshster @ Feb 18 2022 12:59pm)
Giroux to flames make it happen


would be pretty sick id definitely be cheering for the flames if that happened canadian team and they have giroux? :hail:

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Quote (dragoneth @ 18 Feb 2022 10:02)
if the flyers have a 2nd team to eat 2m and can trade giroux at 2m im pretty sure 20 teams in he league would be interested in him
that doesnt seem very realistic if you need that to fit him on your team its likely not happening its more likely u ship us a roster player with assets and flyers eat half his salary

and yea lots of teams want JTM but with boeser going to have a 7.5m qualifying offer it sounds like the canucks are more focused on trading him cause they dont want to pay that and dealing with JTM in the offseason/next season he might not even be traded this season

if the avs trade something i see is maybe like giroux 50% for JTC+barron+pick and the avs gotta clear up like 700k to make it fit or something



would be pretty sick id definitely be cheering for the flames if that happened canadian team and they have giroux? :hail:


boeser is only 7.5m if the Canucks want to sign him to a short term contract. However, both party would prefer a long term contract though.
Boeser would want a long term because he is often hurt & wants to secure himself. He also loves it in Vancouver with Petey/Demko etc. He wouldn't want to leave when they hit their primes together.
Basically if they can't negotiate a 5+yr contract, Boeser can resort to just asking for a short term deal and qualify him for 7.5m, and/or use arbitration if needed. However, the Canucks can choose 2yr instead of just 1yr, so they can trade him on the 2nd year as he would be UFA.
So Boeser asking for short term would mean that he is ready to move on with the Canucks after the 2yr contract is up, and won't mind being traded to another team, potentially another rebuilding team cuz they usually offer better than contending teams for his caphit. While leaving when the Canucks core should be hitting their primes. Which isn't ideal for Boeser. His comparables signed for around 7% and 8.75% caphit, so he's gonna be 5.7m -7.2m, he will probably take slight avv discount for more term, rather than higher avv and less term.

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boeser is only 7.5m if the Canucks want to sign him to a short term contract. However, both party would prefer a long term contract though.
Boeser would want a long term because he is often hurt & wants to secure himself. He also loves it in Vancouver with Petey/Demko etc. He wouldn't want to leave when they hit their primes together.
Basically if they can't negotiate a 5+yr contract, Boeser can resort to just asking for a short term deal and qualify him for 7.5m, and/or use arbitration if needed. However, the Canucks can choose 2yr instead of just 1yr, so they can trade him on the 2nd year as he would be UFA.
So Boeser asking for short term would mean that he is ready to move on with the Canucks after the 2yr contract is up, and won't mind being traded to another team, potentially another rebuilding team cuz they usually offer better than contending teams for his caphit. While leaving when the Canucks core should be hitting their primes. Which isn't ideal for Boeser. His comparables signed for around 7% and 8.75% caphit, so he's gonna be 5.7m -7.2m, he will probably take slight avv discount for more term, rather than higher avv and less term.


yeah i mean im not in the nucks org idk wtf is going on but servalli i think it was pretty much said it sounded like the nucks were willing to move on because they didnt want to pay a 7.5m QO and he hasnt been great under BB
maybe they tried to extend him already but cant come to an agreement and are shopping him because the only way to guarantee keeping him would be the 7.5 QO
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Quote (dragoneth @ 18 Feb 2022 12:09)
yeah i mean im not in the nucks org idk wtf is going on but servalli i think it was pretty much said it sounded like the nucks were willing to move on because they didnt want to pay a 7.5m QO and he hasnt been great under BB
maybe they tried to extend him already but cant come to an agreement and are shopping him because the only way to guarantee keeping him would be the 7.5 QO


he has been arguably the best under BB...

11 goals, 7 assists in 25gp. Basically on pace for like 35+goals, 60+ pts in a full season under BB. Also has good analytical stats, that's why a lot of teams are calling about him.

If they tried to extend him and couldn't come to an agreement, they would just QO and actually shop him later. rather than trade him for less value rn.
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he has been arguably the best under BB...

11 goals, 7 assists in 25gp. Basically on pace for like 35+goals, 60+ pts in a full season under BB. Also has good analytical stats, that's why a lot of teams are calling about him.

If they tried to extend him and couldn't come to an agreement, they would just QO and actually shop him later. rather than trade him for less value rn.


just repeating what was said 18p in 25gp is pretty solid though
it seemed like the nucks dont want to commit to a 7.5 QO so the whole QO then trade later doesnt seem like an option the nucks are willing to take
theoretically they could though and its rumors the nucks could think hes worth 8m the fuck do we know lol

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Quote (dragoneth @ 19 Feb 2022 07:06)
just repeating what was said 18p in 25gp is pretty solid though
it seemed like the nucks dont want to commit to a 7.5 QO so the whole QO then trade later doesnt seem like an option the nucks are willing to take
theoretically they could though and its rumors the nucks could think hes worth 8m the fuck do we know lol


Not sure why it wouldn't be an option, it's literally the best option because Boeser does not have leverage and cannot walk to UFA for free as he is a RFA. Like i said, they both want term, the Canucks would probably try for 6x6yr while Boeser's side would probably ask for 7x6yrs, less than 7.5m AVV in return for more term for security. So they'll probably meet around 6.5m-6.8m.
If Boeser's camp wants to greed for more, the Canucks are just gonna "commit" to short term and qualify him, which hurts Boeser more than the Canucks. Boeser isn't worth 8m AVV because he can't seem to stay healthy, and it doesn't make any sense if the Canucks think he is worth 8m as they would just sign him to 7.5m AVV with term np lol.
he has always been playing on pace for 30g, 60-70pt season but never actually made it there because he can't stay healthy to play full 82 games.

“A reminder that Brock Boeser has played at a 39-goal, 67-point pace since Boudreau took over. He’s played at or above a 65-point pace in 4 of 5 seasons in the league. He’s smart, he’s good defensively, and he’s 24 years old. If you move him, you better get serious value back.” - Cam Robinson.

I dont think the Canucks even begun negotiating with Boeser yet, they're probably gonna wait til the off season to do that and decide to trade him or not then. They're just getting a bunch of calls cuz JR pretty much implied everyone is available aside from Hughes, Demko, and Petey at the right price.
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Quote (Secksii @ Feb 19 2022 12:27pm)
Not sure why it wouldn't be an option, it's literally the best option because Boeser does not have leverage and cannot walk to UFA for free as he is a RFA. Like i said, they both want term, the Canucks would probably try for 6x6yr while Boeser's side would probably ask for 7x6yrs, less than 7.5m AVV in return for more term for security. So they'll probably meet around 6.5m-6.8m.
If Boeser's camp wants to greed for more, the Canucks are just gonna "commit" to short term and qualify him, which hurts Boeser more than the Canucks. Boeser isn't worth 8m AVV because he can't seem to stay healthy, and it doesn't make any sense if the Canucks think he is worth 8m as they would just sign him to 7.5m AVV with term np lol.
he has always been playing on pace for 30g, 60-70pt season but never actually made it there because he can't stay healthy to play full 82 games.

“A reminder that Brock Boeser has played at a 39-goal, 67-point pace since Boudreau took over. He’s played at or above a 65-point pace in 4 of 5 seasons in the league. He’s smart, he’s good defensively, and he’s 24 years old. If you move him, you better get serious value back.” - Cam Robinson.

I dont think the Canucks even begun negotiating with Boeser yet, they're probably gonna wait til the off season to do that and decide to trade him or not then. They're just getting a bunch of calls cuz JR pretty much implied everyone is available aside from Hughes, Demko, and Petey at the right price.


yeah i mean idc what the nucks do with boeser tbh i just stated the rumor was that they might trade him over JTM because it seemed like they didnt want to do the 7.5 QO it doesnt mean they cant or wont
but anyways the whole point of that was saying if JTM isnt available that could make more teams in on giroux possibly upping his value since he can play C or W
this is assuming giroux even decides to be traded but i assume he does and he might only give a 3 team list or something which lowers his value so who knows hes got full control with a full NMC

This post was edited by dragoneth on Feb 19 2022 12:41pm
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Feb 20 2022 01:18pm
ALLENTOWN, Pa. - On a night where most of the Philadelphia Flyers brain trust were on hand, the Colorado Avalanche were among three teams with scouts present at the Flyers' AHL affiliate Lehigh Valley Phantoms (PHI) game against the Utica Comets (NJD) Saturday night.

Interestingly enough, the Avalanche had one of their scouts on hand -- with the Avalanche linked to the Flyers in recent rumors surrounding a potential Claude Giroux trade. Giroux himself told media earlier this week he had yet to speak with GM Chuck Fletcher about waiving his no-movement clause to facilitate a trade in advance of the NHL's trading deadline next month.

The Pittsburgh Penguins and Vegas Golden Knights also had scouts in attendance at the PPL Center


weird if they want giroux why are they scouting the ahl team for our prospects o.O

i wonder who hextall wants back he knows and drafted a bunch of these prospects lol
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Feb 22 2022 03:40pm
Carter needs to use some medicated eye drops and get back in the lineup…


3rd start in a row for martin jones who has let up atleast 4 goals in his last 4 starts lol. Now i know in front of him is weak, but we need better from our backup. His numbers are awful
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